Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Thorsten Glaser Newsgroups: linux.debian.maint.java Subject: jtreg 7 vs. jtreg6 vs. testng vs. openjdk-8 (was Re: OpenJDK package - JTREG 7.1) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2023 21:30:01 +0200 Message-ID: References: X-Original-To: Vladimir Petko X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-java-request@lists.debian.org Wed Mar 29 19:28:09 2023 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.6 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, BODY_8BITS=1.5, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FOURLA=0.1, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: NOT_IN_SBL_XBL_SPAMHAUS=-1.5 CL_IP_EQ_HELO_IP=-2 (check from: .tarent. - helo: .mail-wm1-x330.google. - helo-domain: .google.) FROM/MX_MATCHES_HELO(DOMAIN)=-2; rate: -5.5 X-Gm-Message-State: AAQBX9cRnFFo+ytBIme/O1SSrt1lT3QkLFZsd64nLyp2jynIqdzav40l PC9/MlX/bsbHC1s69ofINDD+O1cagJN1xJnsU8KYwQ== X-Google-SMTP-Source: AKy350aOjYjNkK/tN/FGvkLFQ3uylmPoWyF+pUlRamEsDp3lHookys09ZCOpTPtXUF3/d/DjCp35Jw== X-Received: by 2002:a05:600c:5109:b0:3ef:61a2:6856 with SMTP id o9-20020a05600c510900b003ef61a26856mr2627429wms.7.1680118061671; Wed, 29 Mar 2023 12:27:41 -0700 (PDT) Content-Language: de-DE-1901 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/23289 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/526bbc-ecd6-9960-c94b-1e398fdba892@tarent.de Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 76 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Cc: debian-java@lists.debian.org, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort X-Original-Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2023 21:27:39 +0200 (CEST) X-Original-Message-ID: <526bbc-ecd6-9960-c94b-1e398fdba892@tarent.de> X-Original-References: <8650b221ef3d4d62101d8ca020b83271@apache.org> <503e7658-166d-66-e81-9217f2d63c7b@tarent.de> Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.maint.java:12623 Hi Vladimir, >Sorry for the late reply, but I have realized that there might be an >issue with adopting jtreg6 for Java 8 testing. > >Jtreg 6 requires testng 7.3[1] and Jtreg 5 uses 6.9.5[2]. The current >jtreg6 package uses 6.9.5 making it suitable for Java 8 testing but >not so much for 11 and up. If testng is upgraded to 7.5 it will be >still binary compatible, but there will be new regressions due to API OK, good to know. However, let=E2=80=99s translate this, thinking in upstream versions/dependencies, to Debian now. Debian has testng 6.9.12 in =E2=80=9Call=E2=80=9D releases (jessie-backport= s and up). src:openjdk-8 testing works with that, so we can use this for the jessie and stretch ELTS uploads. As long as pochu doesn=E2=80=99t update testng in either, we=E2=80=99re fine, jtreg6 or not. When testng 7.3 will be uploaded to Debian (not before the release of bookworm), then openjdk-8 in sid should either use jtreg 5 (which doesn=E2=80=99t mix with Emmanuel=E2=80=99s plans to update jtreg to 7) or = will have extra test failures in trixie/sid. The jtreg update hasn=E2=80=99t happened yet, and also will not occur befor= e the bookworm release, so there=E2=80=99s ample time to consider this. Honestly, openjdk-8 isn=E2=80=99t officially part of trixie (although peopl= e may very well build it for it) and the sid one is not =E2=80=9Cofficially supported=E2=80=9D, the jessie/stretch ELTS builds are our primary delivera= bles, so I can live with the extra test failures in sid (as long as they still run at all). As for *buntu, they seem to be hiding the openjdk-8 updates in paid-for subscriptions so I can ignore what they do, anyway. stretch-ELTS is EOL on 2027-06-30 so we need to somehow be able to keep openjdk-8 around and supported-ish until then, but if it doesn=E2=80=99t be= come possible in sid any more, it=E2=80=99ll end up being an ELTS-only problem. I don=E2=80=99t know whether there are any more bootstrapping things that c= ould benefit from openjdk-8 in sid currently or planned. However once it=E2=80= =99s gone it=E2=80=99s very unlikelt it=E2=80=99s possible to bring it back agai= n any more, especially should the target class version be bumped. I=E2=80=99m not sure = for how long -target/-release 8 will be state of the art in either Debian or otherwhere (Maven Central), but it seems to be very long-lived. (We have customers still using it as JRE so I check whether things work on it, except I=E2=80=99m not currently in a Java project at work.) bye, //mirabilos --=20 Infrastrukturexperte =E2=80=A2 tarent solutions GmbH Am Dickobskreuz 10, D-53121 Bonn =E2=80=A2 http://www.tarent.de/ Telephon +49 228 54881-393 =E2=80=A2 Fax: +49 228 54881-235 HRB AG Bonn 5168 =E2=80=A2 USt-ID (VAT): DE122264941 Gesch=C3=A4ftsf=C3=BChrer: Dr. Stefan Barth, Kai Ebenrett, Boris Esser, Ale= xander Steeg ***************************************************= * /=E2=81=80\ The UTF-8 Ribbon =E2=95=B2=C2=A0=E2=95=B1 Campaign against Mit dem tarent-Newsletter ni= chts mehr verpassen: =C2=A0=E2=95=B3=C2=A0 HTML eMail! Also, https://www.tarent.de/newslette= r =E2=95=B1=C2=A0=E2=95=B2 header encryption! ***************************************************= *