Path: csiph.com!news.mixmin.net!aioe.org!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Emmanuel Bourg Newsgroups: linux.debian.maint.java Subject: Re: OpenJDK for Bookworm and beyond Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2022 21:40:02 +0100 Message-ID: References: X-Original-To: Thorsten Glaser X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-java-request@lists.debian.org Thu Nov 10 20:31:39 2022 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-11.902 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, FOURLA=0.1, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: using cached result; rate:hard: -5.5 Authentication-Results: apache.org; auth=none MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.13.1 Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/23117 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/407d2fd0-692e-ce8c-70ef-0ad65a1694e3@apache.org Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 26 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Cc: debian-java@lists.debian.org X-Original-Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2022 21:31:07 +0100 X-Original-Message-ID: <407d2fd0-692e-ce8c-70ef-0ad65a1694e3@apache.org> X-Original-References: <1645122d-d47b-cc7c-c451-4aab6228dcc3@apache.org> <8e639f93-f94e-066e-9ef8-379af7429b39@apache.org> Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.maint.java:12476 Le 31/10/2022 à 19:54, Thorsten Glaser a écrit : > No, we really should not: the various JDKs also only provide > java-runtime and this dependency is specifically meant to > also make it possible for software to use a JRE *other* than > the default (the dependency reads like > default-jre (>= x) | javaX-runtime > by design/for a reason). That should also be possible with the versioned virtual package: default-jre (>= 2:1.n) | java-runtime (>= n) > Given how they stretch across versions and how many releases > are supportable (ELTS from jessie on, *buntu from trusty on) > I will argue that if and only if the openjdk-X source packages > also start providing these _now_, that we can start switching > to the versioned java-runtime provide in 2030, maybe later. I agree the sooner the openjdk- packages provide java-runtime (= n) the better. But I don't see the need to wait a decade before using the versioned java-runtime dependency in the packaged applications, what issue do you foresee? Emmanuel Bourg