Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!news.servidellagleba.it!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: James Kennard Newsgroups: linux.debian.maint.java Subject: Re: Java 8 security patching Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2023 11:00:01 +0100 Message-ID: References: X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-java-request@lists.debian.org Mon Feb 13 09:52:17 2023 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.88 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FOURLA=0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=2, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, MURPHY_DRUGS_REL8=0.02, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: NOT_IN_SBL_XBL_SPAMHAUS=-1.5 CL_IP_EQ_HELO_IP=-2 (check from: .livingwith.health. - helo: .mail-lj1-x234.google. - helo-domain: .google.) FROM/MX_MATCHES_HELO(DOMAIN)=-2; rate: -5.5 X-Gm-Message-State: AO0yUKVioHnzN3/3oO9jnGSmerE5MAig+ZWy7NRQRZIXlI4m8GkG6cAf 7pmwfm8VkDcP/djXlUWIG+DiHH3eiYBGitW+0mGOausf0EHSk87J X-Google-SMTP-Source: AK7set9ql1zeDiJMWRXNvDH4jmWA2J57a2jlTx6LdaUS+5DY31/QTmxpg8+EU/hnp3cTCNfMBvJuKzsz78Kh1Zg0hGs= X-Received: by 2002:a05:651c:200c:b0:28b:8956:9aea with SMTP id s12-20020a05651c200c00b0028b89569aeamr3694755ljo.166.1676281907007; Mon, 13 Feb 2023 01:51:47 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000009c630405f491cb22" X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/23208 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/CAMUpZk2FYHRbnQttSfSbZvmvT1GQDK5xxz3PusQ2xW6iNEbBQw@mail.gmail.com Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 127 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Cc: debian-java@lists.debian.org X-Original-Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2023 09:51:36 +0000 X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-References: <8aa9f71d-806-ab4a-4ed7-2b745749aa7c@tarent.de> <92d5a4c0-8ac4-15d8-8bb-f751475f22a7@tarent.de> Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.maint.java:12556 --0000000000009c630405f491cb22 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Thorsten, Thanks again for the explanation. With the changes to Java licensing, alternative distributions of Java have become increasingly popular. They all have their pros and cons, https://whichjdk.com/. All the best, James On Fri, 10 Feb 2023 at 14:06, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > On Fri, 10 Feb 2023, James Kennard wrote: > > >Is there a particular reason why you are continuing to update it as > opposed > >to recommending people switch to an alternative distribution such as > >Temurin? > > I don=E2=80=99t know what Temurin even is. > > While I do recommend that people switch to default-jdk, and in fact > we have been needing to use at least 11 in development for a while > because Maven plugins from Central didn=E2=80=99t work with 8 for some ti= me > even when intended to, some customers still run prod on 8, so we > need it for testing. (Or, at least, used to; I=E2=80=99m currently not in > a Java project at work.) I also have been supplying a customer with > openjdk-8 as jessie backport before it was in backports itself, then > ELTS. (The mentioned customer is also no longer in a situation to > receive/need these, but this gives historical context.) > > I just did not cease updating this. > > bye, > //mirabilos > -- > Infrastrukturexperte =E2=80=A2 tarent solutions GmbH > Am Dickobskreuz 10, D-53121 Bonn =E2=80=A2 http://www.tarent.de/ > Telephon +49 228 54881-393 =E2=80=A2 Fax: +49 228 54881-235 > HRB AG Bonn 5168 =E2=80=A2 USt-ID (VAT): DE122264941 > Gesch=C3=A4ftsf=C3=BChrer: Dr. Stefan Barth, Kai Ebenrett, Boris Esser, A= lexander > Steeg > > > **************************************************** > /=E2=81=80\ The UTF-8 Ribbon > =E2=95=B2 =E2=95=B1 Campaign against Mit dem tarent-Newsletter nicht= s mehr verpassen: > =E2=95=B3 HTML eMail! Also, https://www.tarent.de/newsletter > =E2=95=B1 =E2=95=B2 header encryption! > > **************************************************** > --0000000000009c630405f491cb22 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Thorsten,

Thanks again for the expla= nation.

With the changes to Java licensing, altern= ative distributions of Java have become increasingly popular. They all have= their pros and cons,=C2=A0https://whichj= dk.com/.

All t= he best,

James

On Fri, = 10 Feb 2023 at 14:06, Thorsten Glaser <t.glaser@tarent.de> wrote:
On Fri, 10 Feb 2023, James Kennard wrote:

>Is there a particular reason why you are continuing to update it as opp= osed
>to recommending people switch to an alternative distribution such as >Temurin?

I don=E2=80=99t know what Temurin even is.

While I do recommend that people switch to default-jdk, and in fact
we have been needing to use at least 11 in development for a while
because Maven plugins from Central didn=E2=80=99t work with 8 for some time=
even when intended to, some customers still run prod on 8, so we
need it for testing. (Or, at least, used to; I=E2=80=99m currently not in a Java project at work.) I also have been supplying a customer with
openjdk-8 as jessie backport before it was in backports itself, then
ELTS. (The mentioned customer is also no longer in a situation to
receive/need these, but this gives historical context.)

I just did not cease updating this.

bye,
//mirabilos
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