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Emmanuel Bourg:
> Le 07/12/2020 à 11:38, Antonin Delpeuch (lists) a écrit :
> 
>> Keep the suggestions coming, this is super useful!
> 
> Another point to keep in mind, if you build and distribute your own .deb
> or Flatpak package you keep the control on the release schedule. Using
> jdeb you could publish your first package in a couple of weeks. Going
> the official Debian archive route takes a lot more time and you're tied
> by the Debian release schedule and update policy. If the application is
> mature and stable it works well, but it can become frustrating if it
> evolves quickly.

I want to second these, they are important points.  And just to make 
sure its clear, it is also possible to do all of the above.  If you pay 
attention to the Debian package versions and use all the tricks 
available, it is also possible to make all these release channels play 
nicely together.

For example, tor uses backports extensively:
https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=tor

.hc