Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed9.news.xs4all.nl!news.dns-netz.com!news.freedyn.net!aioe.org!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Wookey Newsgroups: linux.debian.bugs.dist,linux.debian.maint.java,linux.debian.devel Subject: Bug#903428: deduplicating jquery/ Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 22:40:02 +0100 Message-ID: References: X-Original-To: 903428@bugs.debian.org, debian-java@lists.debian.org, debian-devel@lists.debian.org X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-bugs-dist-request@lists.debian.org Mon Nov 30 21:33:08 2020 Old-Return-Path: X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.651 Reply-To: Wookey , 903428@bugs.debian.org Resent-To: debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org Resent-Cc: Debian Java Maintainers X-Debian-Pr-Message: followup 903428 X-Debian-Pr-Package: javahelper X-Debian-Pr-Keywords: newcomer X-Debian-Pr-Source: javatools X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.0000 Tokens: new, 27; hammy, 148; neutral, 93; spammy, 2. spammytokens:0.987-1--enthusiasm, 0.896-+--age hammytokens:0.000-+--H*UA:1.10.1, 0.000-+--H*u:1.10.1, 0.000-+--H*UA:2018-07-13, 0.000-+--H*u:2018-07-13, 0.000-+--H*ct:application MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7VYoR/Ws5oXf5rNY" Content-Disposition: inline Organization: Wookware User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-Debian-Message: from BTS X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1635659 List-ID: List-URL: Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 74 Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 21:29:43 +0000 X-Original-Message-ID: <20201130212943.GY8931@mail.wookware.org> X-Original-References: <153116570013.52934.7173586082571911770.reportbug@thk1.roam.corp.google.com> Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.bugs.dist:1035222 linux.debian.maint.java:11931 linux.debian.devel:98538 --7VYoR/Ws5oXf5rNY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was just updating a package and got the using lintian grumbling that javadoc has added 1.3MB of jquery to my package (almost doubling its installed size). There are 5 of these on my system (I'm surprised its not more actually, surely some people must have tens or hundreds of these as both doxygen and javadoc do this?). Having read #903428 I see there is no enthusiasm for fixing this in the tooling. And also that I am not the only person coming across this and wondering what to do about it. I've had this experience before with both doxygen and javadoc and have spent some years assuming that someone will sort this out eventually. Whilst I agree that having a local jquery in each such set of docs is not that big a deal, do we not potetially end up with an awful lot of them across the distro so maybe it is worth taking more seriously? If it really is only 5 on everyone's machines then I guess we can live with that. Given that the maintainers of both javadoc and doxygen have declared this "wontfix" should we not at least stop lintian complaining about it? Unless the project disgrees with the maintainers decisions here it seems perverse to continue to mark this as an issue. And also at least document some dh runes for doing the necesarry symlinking to use the system copy so that packagers can just find the "standard solution" and use that without having to read a great long bug report, find that everyone has thrown up their hands, and write pleading mails :-) (Acompanied by a note about the practical risk of incompatible version changes over time - I know I don't know how much I should worry about that in practice (given that my inclination is to use the system version, because I'm much more bothered about the duplication than the problem that the search function in the API docs for an obscure package might stop working one day ...) This feels like the sort of makework we used to be better at dealing with. Am I just getting grumpy in my old age? Perhaps there are docs for packagers on this somewhere, in which case can someone reply so they are in the bug report. Cheers. 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