Path: csiph.com!aioe.org!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Markus Koschany Newsgroups: linux.debian.maint.java Subject: Removing netbeans Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 18:40:02 +0200 Message-ID: References: X-Original-To: debian-java@lists.debian.org X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-java-request@lists.debian.org Wed Sep 30 16:35:01 2020 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-12 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, PGPSIGNATURE=-5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: using cached result; rate: -4.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="SnOHI2hQ7M6UCKZ8gmwpIAXQAKmFGcTgE" Authentication-Results: ORIGINATING; auth=pass smtp.auth=apo@gambaru.de smtp.mailfrom=apo@debian.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/22480 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/62b47e20-b96b-83be-6e52-e5e8ced311f7@debian.org Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 68 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 18:34:45 +0200 X-Original-Message-ID: <62b47e20-b96b-83be-6e52-e5e8ced311f7@debian.org> X-Original-References: <114A2CC1-9DEC-4C0D-9B58-8E24DBD9E117@mediaburg.ch> <028445d7-58e9-b67b-f183-16b407452857@debian.org> <20200926172350.qbeh6dt6j3qjbhli@lark> <20a056cd-8705-b328-0a2e-56e6d7655b23@apache.org> Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.maint.java:11868 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --SnOHI2hQ7M6UCKZ8gmwpIAXQAKmFGcTgE Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="GMMePnzASN3H4cThOLBN1eJBjitz8B44F" --GMMePnzASN3H4cThOLBN1eJBjitz8B44F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am 27.09.20 um 12:55 schrieb Emmanuel Bourg: [...] > I fully share Markus' analysis. Packaging these huge projects isn't > viable without more regular, dedicated, contributors. For client side > applications such as Netbeans or Eclipse I tend to think the community > would be better served with flatpak packages (it would be nice to have = a > pure Java toolchain generating these packages), and for complex server > side applications a .deb package simply generated by jdeb would be fine= =2E I wanted to move the idea forward and just pushed a new update of netbeans to Git. Currently there is only one reverse-dependency in Debian, openstereogram, that requires libnb-absolutelayout-java. I have simplified netbeans and now it only builds this extra library which consists of two classes. That will ensure opensterogram can migrate to testing again. If nobody objects, I can upload the changes. I intend to update libnb-platform18-java soon, it is basically the same source package as src:netbeans but it only builds the platform code. For instance the platform packages are needed for visualvm. I believe maintaining this package is viable. Perhaps we should create a new Java wiki page and briefly document how to install Netbeans and Eclipse with flatpack. I think it's quite simple, so we don't have to write too much documentation. Regards, Markus --GMMePnzASN3H4cThOLBN1eJBjitz8B44F-- --SnOHI2hQ7M6UCKZ8gmwpIAXQAKmFGcTgE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQKTBAEBCgB9FiEErPPQiO8y7e9qGoNf2a0UuVE7UeQFAl90s6VfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldEFD RjNEMDg4RUYzMkVERUY2QTFBODM1RkQ5QUQxNEI5NTEzQjUxRTQACgkQ2a0UuVE7 UeQWTA/9GP9h1RIuoZ/8ZwlRBM2o9j36EbHwVlKv2cLj+O6X4rWof+IBPKnnI1Vu NF72UIbpAS+aYd1sB5i1vj98zHD9AUJiMi/9IUUFbXObz0QqIenhpICsCZL9YINb 2yUY81Uj0NGH0s8/tY8KAHtQdjPizuciwA7OAOdye3OKcVCYtyZxzGJmE4Rul5yr 6OeZeplplY0dOBWJkhlfrXg10q77WMl1t2HjPtVMZ1IklCECB0OeFuDwi8RfqKNy iFnPO6LNvve4ZK2e4KhSmldgtRMTsqz859vs9uHPDJG7GCNr/qSQsbQvVYR318aY 5pTFHo6lk7GaMmpdhFAqehCoiCYVPyUXjDxzxkyuh/06UDiKjKniO8Uy7NUgY5Hr rPyiiUhaRPHG85COYbRTPT8CRsPXrQVtJs3tqMEwNRwvN3mvR9vugpc7BZSqeAv1 qAwhY7VNhUCw/8VgJhfa3cigjKdoYjm3FIAda6CcRSwEPoXTETRuoDeWmwQAO+to vb20mv38EerRR9jAmYkmeW4Cx4MaXdK/r6QODDkTdtHpNbM70ggN5sggKOnzm222 zvXL1ukwa3YVNgzXj1BhuvMpL7zc8XB79p7ubqjvZ+qoQqpUdXzJc1LJAxeJR3G9 jA2hzHi4NT33WsIp46oDAvKcES/Nh6iQc0JIKmJMKfck1qWkjaA= =jsmu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --SnOHI2hQ7M6UCKZ8gmwpIAXQAKmFGcTgE--