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Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories

From Andrey Rakhmatullin <wrar@debian.org>
Newsgroups linux.debian.devel
Subject Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories
Date 2024-12-07 18:50 +0100
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On Sat, Dec 07, 2024 at 02:34:20PM +0100, Andrea Pappacoda wrote:
> Hi all, I've tried catching up with the whole thread, but didn't fully yet.
> So excuse me if this has been asked/answered before.
> 
> On Tue Dec 3, 2024 at 3:40 AM CET, Sean Whitton wrote:
> > Then just make one: 'git deborig'.
> > 
> > I appreciate not everyone is happy with this, but it solves the problem.
> 
> It seems that we're all agreeing on trying to unify our different workflows
> as much as possible.

No, there is clearly no consensus on unifying any workflows. Everyone
thinks their workflow is superior and canneeds to stay.

> Why do we have `git deborig`, `gbp export-orig`, `origtargz`, etc.? 

They are parts of different incompatible workflows.

> Couldn't we decide to unify on a single "front end" command, which
> chooses different backends automatically depending on the situation?

That seems unlikely.
It can't be a command that runs the full workflow and it can't be a set of
separate commands that run separate parts of different workflows because
the parts themselves are unlikely to be possible to uinify.

> It would be a starting point. To new contributors, we could say, for
> example, "to generate the tarball, just run origtargz", independently of
> whether they use gbp, git-debrebase, no git at all, etc.

Ideally one shouldn't need to run any separate commands to generate the
tarball from a repo. E.g. the gbp workflow doesn't require this.
Additionally, e.g. gbp expects the tarball to be in the build-dir, while
no unrelated tools could know the location of the gbp build-dir.
See?

-- 
WBR, wRAR

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Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories Otto Kekäläinen <otto@debian.org> - 2024-11-21 05:20 +0100
  Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2024-11-21 12:30 +0100
    Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories Chris Hofstaedtler <zeha@debian.org> - 2024-11-21 14:40 +0100
      Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories Otto Kekäläinen <otto@debian.org> - 2024-11-22 03:20 +0100
    Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories Andrey Rakhmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2024-11-21 18:10 +0100
    Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories Otto Kekäläinen <otto@debian.org> - 2024-11-22 03:00 +0100
      Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org> - 2024-11-22 12:40 +0100
        Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless  repositories "Jonathan Dowland" <jmtd@debian.org> - 2024-11-26 10:00 +0100
  Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories Soren Stoutner <soren@debian.org> - 2024-11-22 01:20 +0100
  Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless  repositories "Jonathan Dowland" <jmtd@debian.org> - 2024-11-26 10:00 +0100
    Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories Andrey Rakhmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2024-11-26 12:00 +0100
      Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless  repositories "Jonathan Dowland" <jmtd@debian.org> - 2024-11-26 13:00 +0100
        Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories Chris Hofstaedtler <zeha@debian.org> - 2024-11-26 13:30 +0100
          Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org> - 2024-11-26 16:30 +0100
            Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories Andrey Rakhmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2024-11-26 17:50 +0100
              Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2024-11-26 18:10 +0100
              Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories Mechtilde Stehmann <mechtilde@debian.org> - 2024-11-26 19:00 +0100
                Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories Andrey Rakhmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2024-11-26 19:30 +0100
                Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2024-12-03 03:50 +0100
                Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories Andrey Rakhmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2024-12-03 09:30 +0100
            Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories Chris Hofstaedtler <zeha@debian.org> - 2024-11-26 19:00 +0100
              Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories Andrey Rakhmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2024-11-26 19:30 +0100
                Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org> - 2024-11-26 21:00 +0100
                Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories Colin Watson <cjwatson@debian.org> - 2024-11-26 21:00 +0100
                Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org> - 2024-11-26 21:30 +0100
                Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories Colin Watson <cjwatson@debian.org> - 2024-11-26 23:40 +0100
                Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories Chris Hofstaedtler <zeha@debian.org> - 2024-11-27 10:10 +0100
                Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories gregor herrmann <gregoa@debian.org> - 2024-11-27 11:00 +0100
                Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org> - 2024-11-27 11:20 +0100
                Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories Marco d'Itri <md@Linux.IT> - 2024-11-28 09:50 +0100
                Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories Andrey Rakhmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2024-11-28 10:10 +0100
                Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories gregor herrmann <gregoa@debian.org> - 2024-11-28 10:50 +0100
                Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories Andrey Rakhmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2024-11-28 11:10 +0100
                Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories gregor herrmann <gregoa@debian.org> - 2024-11-28 12:10 +0100
                Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories Chris Hofstaedtler <zeha@debian.org> - 2024-11-28 13:10 +0100
                Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories Marc Haber <mh+debian-devel@zugschlus.de> - 2024-11-27 13:00 +0100
                Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories Andrey Rakhmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2024-11-27 13:00 +0100
                Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories Marc Haber <mh+debian-devel@zugschlus.de> - 2024-11-27 13:30 +0100
                Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories Chris Hofstaedtler <zeha@debian.org> - 2024-11-27 13:50 +0100
                Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories Marc Haber <mh+debian-devel@zugschlus.de> - 2024-11-27 14:00 +0100
                Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories Chris Hofstaedtler <zeha@debian.org> - 2024-11-27 14:00 +0100
                Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2024-12-03 03:50 +0100
                Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless  repositories "Andrea Pappacoda" <tachi@debian.org> - 2024-12-07 14:40 +0100
                Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories Andrey Rakhmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2024-12-07 18:50 +0100
                Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2024-12-07 19:00 +0100
                Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2024-12-10 00:10 +0100
                Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless  repositories "Jonathan Dowland" <jmtd@debian.org> - 2024-12-09 22:40 +0100
              Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories Otto Kekäläinen <otto@debian.org> - 2024-11-27 05:40 +0100
                Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories Aaron Rainbolt <arraybolt3@gmail.com> - 2024-11-27 06:50 +0100
                Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories Andrey Rakhmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2024-11-27 13:20 +0100
                Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless  repositories "Jonathan Dowland" <jmtd@debian.org> - 2024-12-02 13:50 +0100
            Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu> - 2024-11-28 09:10 +0100
              Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org> - 2024-11-28 10:40 +0100
                Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless  repositories Pirate Praveen <praveen@onenetbeyond.org> - 2024-11-28 11:10 +0100
                Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories Paul Gevers <elbrus@debian.org> - 2024-11-28 13:00 +0100
                Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories Pirate Praveen <praveen@onenetbeyond.org> - 2024-11-28 13:10 +0100
                Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories Pirate Praveen <praveen@onenetbeyond.org> - 2024-11-28 13:10 +0100
                Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories Andrey Rakhmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2024-11-28 13:20 +0100
                Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless  repositories Pirate Praveen <praveen@onenetbeyond.org> - 2024-11-28 15:10 +0100
                Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories Andrey Rakhmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2024-11-28 15:30 +0100
                Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories Otto Kekäläinen <otto@debian.org> - 2024-11-29 03:20 +0100
                Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2024-11-29 08:00 +0100
                Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless  repositories Pirate Praveen <praveen@onenetbeyond.org> - 2024-11-29 13:30 +0100
                Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories sre4ever@free.fr - 2024-11-29 13:30 +0100
                Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2024-11-29 15:20 +0100
                Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories sre4ever@free.fr - 2024-11-29 17:00 +0100
                Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories Jonas Smedegaard <jonas@jones.dk> - 2024-11-29 18:40 +0100
                Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories sre4ever@free.fr - 2024-11-29 19:30 +0100
                Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories Chris Hofstaedtler <zeha@debian.org> - 2024-11-28 13:30 +0100
                Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu> - 2024-11-28 21:40 +0100
                Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org> - 2024-11-29 11:00 +0100
                Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories sre4ever@free.fr - 2024-11-29 17:20 +0100
                Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2024-12-03 03:50 +0100
        Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories Andrey Rakhmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2024-11-26 14:50 +0100
        Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories Marco d'Itri <md@Linux.IT> - 2024-11-26 23:40 +0100
          Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues <josch@debian.org> - 2024-11-27 05:30 +0100
            Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories Marco d'Itri <md@linux.it> - 2024-11-27 09:00 +0100

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