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Bug#813471: Seeking seconds for patch to permit some network access to localhost

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On Mon, 2018-07-23 at 20:16 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:

> LGTM.  It might be worth saying "the apt repository (both source and
> binaries)".  There are both packages which fetch .debs explicitly, and
> packages which fetch sources explicitly (yes, this is not very good,
> but consensus in a discussion of relevant people in ? Nicaragua I
> think was that there isn't a better way right now, and that making a
> better way would be a *lot* of work).

Sean and I discussed this at DebCamp and he mentioned that udeb
building packages have an exception from (most?) of policy, so we
probably do not need this particular apt repo network exception?

The only other reason I can think of to need access to the apt repo
from the build scripts is as an alternative workaround to the "cannot
build-dep on source packages" problem, which is usually worked around
via -source binary packages. The -source workaround is used by
toolchain packages, external Linux kernel drivers and some other
things. It seems to be working OK so I suggest that we deprecate all
access to the apt repo except for d-i and installing Build-Depends.

> If you access the archive to fetch .debs or .dscs, you almost
> certainly needed to put in a Built-Using.  Maybe we should mention
> that ?

Since Built-Using is *only* for license compliance (and folks strongly
discourage its use for other things such as static linking), that is
completely dependent on the license of the source/binary being fetched.
It is probably worth mentioning if we add the apt repo exception.

-- 
bye,
pabs

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Bug#813471: Seeking seconds for patch to permit some network access to localhost Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2018-07-22 11:30 +0200
  Bug#813471: Seeking seconds for patch to permit some network access to localhost David Bremner <david@tethera.net> - 2018-07-22 11:50 +0200
  Bug#813471: Seeking seconds for patch to permit some network access to localhost Niels Thykier <niels@thykier.net> - 2018-07-22 12:00 +0200
    Bug#813471: Seeking seconds for patch to permit some network access to localhost Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2018-07-22 12:30 +0200
      Bug#813471: Seeking seconds for patch to permit some network access to localhost Niels Thykier <niels@thykier.net> - 2018-07-22 12:50 +0200
        Bug#813471: Seeking seconds for patch to permit some network access to localhost Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2018-07-23 01:50 +0200
          Bug#813471: Seeking seconds for patch to permit some network access to localhost David Bremner <bremner@debian.org> - 2018-07-23 03:10 +0200
          Bug#813471: Seeking seconds for patch to permit some network access to localhost Niels Thykier <niels@thykier.net> - 2018-07-23 21:30 +0200
        Bug#813471: Seeking seconds for patch to permit some network access to localhost Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2018-07-23 05:30 +0200
          Bug#813471: Seeking seconds for patch to permit some network access to localhost Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2018-07-23 21:30 +0200
            Bug#813471: Seeking seconds for patch to permit some network access to localhost Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2018-07-24 02:10 +0200
              Bug#813471: Seeking seconds for patch to permit some network access to localhost Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2018-07-25 05:20 +0200
                Bug#813471: Seeking seconds for patch to permit some network access to localhost Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2018-07-26 02:50 +0200
  Bug#813471: Seeking seconds for patch to permit some network access to localhost Osamu Aoki <osamu@debian.org> - 2018-07-23 18:00 +0200

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