Path: csiph.com!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!usenet.stanford.edu!not-for-mail From: Samuel Thibault Newsgroups: gnu.hurd.bug Subject: Re: A few questions: Libre SoC, website, Rust Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 23:58:14 +0200 Organization: I am not organized Lines: 28 Approved: bug-hurd@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <20200815185127.1fb60379@interia.pl> <20200816143912.axdm6efirxvqqah2@function> <20200816210026.412b374f@interia.pl> <20200816220725.lznpsukkg5my6tz5@function> <87sgckrpyq.fsf@dismail.de> <20200819215814.k6w5ldhnjufzpjcu@function> NNTP-Posting-Host: lists.gnu.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: usenet.stanford.edu 1597874301 27521 209.51.188.17 (19 Aug 2020 21:58:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: action@cs.stanford.edu To: bug-hurd@gnu.org Envelope-to: bug-hurd@gnu.org X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at aquilenet.fr Mail-Followup-To: bug-hurd@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87sgckrpyq.fsf@dismail.de> User-Agent: NeoMutt/20170609 (1.8.3) Received-SPF: softfail client-ip=185.233.100.1; envelope-from=samuel.thibault@gnu.org; helo=hera.aquilenet.fr X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/08/19 16:02:53 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -11 X-Spam_score: -1.2 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.2 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: bug-hurd@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Bug reports for the GNU Hurd List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: <20200819215814.k6w5ldhnjufzpjcu@function> X-Mailman-Original-References: <20200815185127.1fb60379@interia.pl> <20200816143912.axdm6efirxvqqah2@function> <20200816210026.412b374f@interia.pl> <20200816220725.lznpsukkg5my6tz5@function> <87sgckrpyq.fsf@dismail.de> Xref: csiph.com gnu.hurd.bug:12048 Joshua Branson, le mar. 18 août 2020 10:25:17 -0400, a ecrit: > Samuel Thibault writes: > > Jan Wielkiewicz, le dim. 16 août 2020 21:00:26 +0200, a ecrit: > >> > More than a grant, it's people that we would need (yes, a grant could > >> > help here but in the end it's people that matter). > >> I believe the website could help here, explanation below. > > May I suggest we make a business out of the GNU/Hurd? I don't think we really can, for various reasons I don't really have time to explain in details, but basically we can't claim the GNU/Hurd is actually secure (even if the principles are really good for security, AFAIK nobody has made an actual security review over the code), it is slower than Linux, it doesn't support SMP yet, etc. I don't see how we could be competitive with anything that is currently on the market already. > I'm not proposing that I own the project or > the direction the GNU/Hurd takes. Samuel is our fearless leader! I'm not, actually. (I'm not even a Hurd maintainer officially) Note that I'm really talking about the *lead* part, not the maintenance part. Samuel