Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!border-1.nntp.ord.giganews.com!border-3.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-1.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2024 22:19:22 +0000 From: steve g Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Subject: Re: 10, 15 yrs ago this newsgroup was *much* larger. What happened? References: <8734rhavhm.fsf@gmail.com> <87jzksuokf.fsf@127.0.0.1> <87le15tmqm.fsf@gmail.com> <87a5hlwdag.fsf@tilde.institute> Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2024 18:19:20 -0400 Message-ID: <87ttfq3dp3.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cancel-Lock: sha1:XTCUft0drBsxTey98viEB2fiOnw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Lines: 47 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-LlduDCSMcp+RwYUpYIMfTFsVvkRNLEzR1Qiip1x711zaaZXg0cl+TR10yqpOTNMIyWBx1Kd3yLC5F35!G+BfPgX2/+60XAzTlzeKF6Gn7Z5jm7xTUUkNgpQ0qXcUy/g= X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Xref: csiph.com gnu.emacs.help:60997 yeti writes: > steve g writes: > < > Maybe ISP (internet service providers) could start to offer access to < > USEnet, email, and ftp to their clients again. > I don't even use the email address from my main provider to minimise the > locked in effect. yeah they ran out of engineers. > Eternal-September and similar news providers do a good job and them > being independent from my internet provider feels like a good thing. yes, I agree. However most ISPs would just farm out the NNTP, and DNS servers to larger companies. That is to say the ISP would pay a usenet provider to handle operations. One thing I loved about this system is that your ISP could have local groups just for their customers. it used to make feel more ``connected'' to the by ISP. these days they want me to online chat them. this was back when packet radio/land lines and such where still useful. > > If you want a bit web-, gopher-, gemini-space and email somewhere, look > for a pubnix offering such. As positive side effect you get some more > digital neighbours too. I'll just run my own. pain in the a$$ as it is. but thanks for the info. > E.g.: > > -> https://tildeverse.org/ > -> https://sdf.org/ > -> https://sdfeu.org/w/ > > Apropos neighbours: > > -> https://emacs.ch (Mastodon, the ideal place to test mastodon.el)