Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Ethan Carter Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Subject: Re: 10, 15 yrs ago this newsgroup was *much* larger. What happened? Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2025 04:01:56 -0300 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 42 Message-ID: <87ldsf6qhn.fsf@somewhere.edu> References: <8734rhavhm.fsf@gmail.com> <87jzksuokf.fsf@127.0.0.1> <87le15tmqm.fsf@gmail.com> <87seoqlbof.fsf@fakedomain.nope> <86msexj0oy.fsf@example.com> <87cyftz1ee.fsf@example.com> <878qqcyn7n.fsf@example.com> <871pub4a84.fsf@fakedomain.nope> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2025 13:45:56 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="15616260f960820baf449b751881cd6d"; logging-data="2292597"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18e1hVTLkwxHYyTeKJJ7Q+hRlUHzWWkPZ0=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:ey2nHmEzbcgZEy4spJ6uccyiRbo= sha1:hTDsn1gCjmh5b0qFCTV0qu2T77Y= Xref: csiph.com gnu.emacs.help:61017 Rust Buckett writes: > Anssi Saari writes: > >> "W. Greenhouse" writes: >> >>> The Gmane gateway has its own independent subscription. You just post >>> with some valid mail address in From, and reply (by email) to the >>> autoreply the >>> system sends out, and after that you can post by news. >> >> That depends on the mailing list though. At least the Python mailing >> list doesn't allow posting via Gmane and they require subscription >> too. Seems overkill, the list has gone fairly quiet since discussion >> moved to a forum. > > I'd really love to see a move back to Usenet/NNTP. I know Thunderbird has > builtin support and I imagine other MUAs do as well, so set up wouldn't be too > technical for most people. > > IDK, maybe I'm just being nostalgic. I don't think that's just nostalgia. An NNTP server is far superior to mailing lists---not to mention web forums or web anything. Doesn't Gmane or something help you there? (*) A tangent I wouldn't be surprised if we see an awakening in a near or not so near future---in USENET-like technologies. Take a look at NNCPNET, for example. There are news posted just yesterday on comp.mail.uccp. We may also mention the Gemini protocol. I think it's safe to say that hackers were never satisfied with the implications of the growth of the web and its products. A certain new world is very likely being built once again right under our noses. It's true that even among hackers there are so many who don't believe in any rebirth of anything. I wouldn't count on it myself. But NNCPNET, for example, is not going back---it's moving forward. I think there's a group of people moving forward. Technology and propaganda are just like that: the former moves slowly with spasms along the way; the latter is to confuse everyone and everything.