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From: steve g <sgonedes1977@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
Subject: Re: 10, 15 yrs ago this newsgroup was *much* larger. What happened?
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Mekeor Melire <mekeor@posteo.de> writes:

> On 2026-03-29 at 19:49, <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> wrote:
>
< > Rust Buckett <rust@fakedomain.nope> writes:
< >
< >> steve g <sgonedes1977@gmail.com> writes:
< >>
< > < >
< > < > Maybe ISP (internet service providers) could start to offer access to
< > < > USEnet, email, and ftp to their clients again.
< > < >
< >>
< >> Those were the good old days when your ISP hosted an NNTP server.
< >
< >
< > yes and enough space to run your own web page! Things chage but stay the
< > same; I am listening to my SDR radio .
>


> Steve, why do you partly use "< " as a
> `message-yank-cited-prefix'? I've never seen that before. It will
> sure break some other people's setup.


I read about this in an old rfc many years ago. This is not intended to
be malicious, just complient. I also find it convenient to read. Emacs
font-locking will switch to another color ; I got sick of reading
messages that started with

>>>> Hello I disagree.

so I thought

>>>< Hellow I disagree

would standout. in emacs the colors are different so it make it easier
for me to read. I care not for broken software.

As to my organization being backspace; this is also RFC complient (as
far as I can remeber). This goes back to the days before Gnu/Linux
systems were considered an X11 386 operating system. The RFC states that
backspace is a legitimate organization. it also fits the no space rule
for smtp :)

When Gnu/Linux first started to appear on net 1 or 2 there where some
people who did not like freedom that a GNU system offered, so these
"fail safe methods" where used. If you listed you where using the linux
system you would get syn flooded (I think this is the first attack
against the network stack); this was quite embarrassing at the time.

thanks for asking though!