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Re: Emacs and Gmail

From Jonathan Lamothe <jonathan@jlamothe.net>
Newsgroups gnu.emacs.help
Subject Re: Emacs and Gmail
Date 2026-04-13 12:02 -0400
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <5e5e873cd057a7ee09699ff5b77490ba3b8d1fafcbbd56c544e79a7f6fb32e4e@posteo.de> (permalink)
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Mekeor Melire <mekeor@posteo.de> writes:

> On 2026-04-12 at 09:56, <jonathan@jlamothe.net> wrote:
> Hmm. What about the User-Agent header (`gnus-user-agent')?

What's interestng is that neither Gnus, nor my previous client seem to
be sending a User-Agent header, so that can't be the issue.

I've compared the headers from my various clients.

Here are the headers from an email sent from neomutt (not marked spam):

Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2026 23:00:14 +0000
From: Jonathan Lamothe <jonathan@jlamothe.net>
To: [redacted]@gmail.com
Subject: neomutt Test
Message-ID: <20260411230012.tugxwjowwr33q5ai@pertwee.jlamothe.net>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline


Here are the headers from an email sent from FairEmail (not marked
spam):

Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2026 20:31:51 +0000
From: Jonathan Lamothe <jonathan@jlamothe.net>
To: [redacted]@gmail.com
Message-ID: <a91451df-dadf-4bca-8d15-2d7f1bdd22c4@jlamothe.net>
Subject: FairEmail Test
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Correlation-ID: <a91451df-dadf-4bca-8d15-2d7f1bdd22c4@jlamothe.net>


Here are the headers from an email sent from emacs (marked as spam):

From: Jonathan Lamothe <jonathan@jlamothe.net>
To: [redacted]@gmail.com
Subject: Emacs Test
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2026 20:46:09 +0000
Message-ID: <874ilh6x9t.fsf@posteo.de>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain


Things I've unsuccessfully tried:

- Hacknig emacs to change the Message-ID so that the part before the @
  is a SHA256
- Ensuring that the Content-Type header contais an encoding i.e.:
  text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Also worth noting: replies sent to email originating from Gmail seem to
be passing the spam filter.

-- 
Regards,
Jonathan Lamothe
https://jlamothe.net

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Emacs and Gmail Jonathan Lamothe <jonathan@jlamothe.net> - 2026-04-12 09:56 -0400
  Re: Emacs and Gmail Mekeor Melire <mekeor@posteo.de> - 2026-04-13 16:56 +0200
    Re: Emacs and Gmail Jonathan Lamothe <jonathan@jlamothe.net> - 2026-04-13 12:02 -0400

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