Path: csiph.com!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!usenet.stanford.edu!not-for-mail From: Peng Yu Newsgroups: gnu.bash.bug Subject: JIT in bash Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2019 10:02:21 -0600 Lines: 75 Approved: bug-bash@gnu.org Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: lists.gnu.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Trace: usenet.stanford.edu 1546531365 23720 208.118.235.17 (3 Jan 2019 16:02:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: action@cs.stanford.edu To: bug-bash Envelope-to: bug-bash@gnu.org DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=EmREeLuaveuiiMcDLYRFaYh6o3UfXu6Qfz2FKh+l0pA=; b=k3zCoEiMTkMlHZ8x7dthPZRp28BVLmyN+x/3SrQlpMSfPtRxHoGv3tOPgy7oruIhjC FsQ/fvQ0amPGUV9dJMBniBkWIm5NLm3LPjdeAWtinSW+SVDDGgZ9u8Rkd49J6se+IkoJ lcvaVbr4KWaOHRb5OCNb0pwMTqWIROShFP8osV4TQVVQ1FkwQ+qZyZtoc2Ob+ZkqCiPT Ck81IkPPxa/3vHBUnUpeGnBAwndRS8tr3Q3uyEyCBb9H2J4+AsZmaz5DY8YPW61HN6Vh DDkXYSTRI85L172wROsAewmpXzuL/A9p/uiA7fWf0L7wNXClC33BVxqP/H73lXVQQ0dn OxxA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=EmREeLuaveuiiMcDLYRFaYh6o3UfXu6Qfz2FKh+l0pA=; b=U4zWpFu0DFber9QJjla//2zgvxSGXs4eyXlbNkFgkNO9cQb+QQ462SW4f4d+UDeSsF RQ+bTkED+uouCKEilL5xg4zBYDQBHh+INhJVH5btgQILCvhwqLo1NQtO1EcE7EG9uL16 jEHqy+4wLVSKYnO3lW/VbDyTad0IjRzjTDsmC7HuWWOmUHjFFUxw4jHQDM3wGMvBjtw6 lgxxgeY70pS9EHnBhSNemuXfhqdtfvBDsKQoynaX5Buxi6CRTybIp57IsKndW8AzSvkw 6CVXGEHuJULXYex7GOCEL35sLWyZdiPxjcaHJvHw5w+VNkIoBeSTvLXbg+6WqzE6yov3 DAfA== X-Gm-Message-State: AJcUukf2zn3sDHKX8HX1wZu7vV8sjRuacff6NnXXMbFrD6p08l4kOMr8 Imu7u6LR+H1eWwxerOTYFIG9rPWQwVNpzK91C7asG2ML X-Google-Smtp-Source: ALg8bN6ihU73O6yn4t1ZpIq601wgr5okq2PG6gTnGTtXAn1QzkQjUWCXNeivLFjeTCG9aZqmUP83m7T4aj8qaBVEwY8= X-Received: by 2002:a24:be0b:: with SMTP id i11mr9662384itf.0.1546531356178; Thu, 03 Jan 2019 08:02:36 -0800 (PST) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::12f X-BeenThere: bug-bash@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Bug reports for the GNU Bourne Again SHell List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: csiph.com gnu.bash.bug:15037 The following test cases show that the variable length can significantly affect the runtime in bash. But the variable length doesn't seem to have a significant effect in some other interpreted languages, such as python. I can understand that variables length will slow down the runtime, as bash is interpreted. But I didn't expect that it should slow down the runtime so much. Does anybody happen to know the cause of the problem on why bash is slowed down so much compared with python when the variable length is increased? One way that I think can mitigate (but not solve the original problem) the problem is to use just-in-time (JIT) compilation. Python has a JIT compiler pypy. However, I don't see that bash has a JIT compiler. Is it because people think that bash is just a glue language so that making it run faster is not important, therefore there is no need to make a JIT compiler for bash? Or it is because the current bash code started very early and has certain limitation which makes it hard to create a new JIT compiler based on it? $ cat ./main.sh #!/usr/bin/env bash # vim: set noexpandtab tabstop=2: TIMEFORMAT=%R set -v time for ((i=0;i<10000;++i)); do : done > /dev/null time for ((iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii=0;iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii<10000;++iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii)); do : done > /dev/null time ./main.py 1000000 time ./main.py 10000000 time ./main_long.py 1000000 time ./main_long.py 10000000 $ cat main.py #!/usr/bin/env python # vim: set noexpandtab tabstop=2 shiftwidth=2 softtabstop=-1 fileencoding=utf-8: import sys for i in xrange(int(sys.argv[1])): pass $ ./main.sh time for ((i=0;i<10000;++i)); do : done > /dev/null 0.148 time for ((iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii=0;iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii<10000;++iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii)); do : done > /dev/null 0.321 time ./main.py 1000000 0.188 time ./main.py 10000000 0.822 time ./main_long.py 1000000 0.164 time ./main_long.py 10000000 0.945 -- Regards, Peng