Path: csiph.com!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!usenet.stanford.edu!not-for-mail From: Chet Ramey Newsgroups: gnu.bash.bug Subject: Re: Incorrect example for `[[` command. 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Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.0 In-Reply-To: <70f5667e-d91e-a4cf-fef0-b72c7d61a29a@iki.fi> Content-Language: en-US X-Junkmail-Status: score=7/90, host=mpv4-2015.case.edu X-Junkmail-PrAS-Raw: score=7/90, refid=2.7.2:2019.9.20.173019:17:7.944, ip=, rules=DKIM_SIGNATURE, __HAS_REPLYTO, __HAS_CC_HDR, __SUBJ_REPLY, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __TO_NAME, __TO_NAME_DIFF_FROM_ACC, __HAS_REFERENCES, __REFERENCES, __HAS_FROM, FROM_EDU_TLD, __HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, DATE_TZ_NA, __USER_AGENT, __MOZILLA_USER_AGENT, __MIME_VERSION, __IN_REP_TO, __CT, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN, __CTE, __REPLYTO_SAMEAS_FROM_ADDY, __REPLYTO_SAMEAS_FROM_ACC, __FROM_DOMAIN_IN_ANY_CC1, __FROM_DOMAIN_IN_ANY_CC2, __REPLYTO_SAMEAS_FROM_DOMAIN, __DKIM_ALIGNS_1, __DKIM_ALIGNS_2, __ANY_URI, __URI_WITH_PATH, __URI_NO_WWW, __CP_URI_IN_BODY, __CP_NOT_1, __FRAUD_MONEY_CURRENCY_DOLLAR, __SUBJ_ALPHA_NEGATE, __URI_IN_BODY, __URI_NOT_IMG, __FORWARDED_MSG, __BODY_NO_MAILTO, __NO_HTML_TAG_RAW, BODY_SIZE_1500_1599, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS, __MIME_TEXT_P1, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY, __URI_NS, HTML_00_01, HTML_00_10, [TRUNCATED], so=2010-03-03 19:42:08, dmn=2016-08-03-0138 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 129.22.103.195 X-BeenThere: bug-bash@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Bug reports for the GNU Bourne Again SHell List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: <322f128f-0f7d-064c-2e47-baed38cb7493@case.edu> X-Mailman-Original-References: <20190920124827.GP28751@eeg.ccf.org> <70f5667e-d91e-a4cf-fef0-b72c7d61a29a@iki.fi> Xref: csiph.com gnu.bash.bug:15384 On 9/20/19 9:30 AM, Ilkka Virta wrote: > On 20.9. 15:48, Greg Wooledge wrote: >> but after the regex-glob-thing, it says: >> >>    That means values like ‘aab’ and ‘ aaaaaab’ will match >> >> So there's a shift in intent between a? and a+ in what's supposed to be >> a regular expression.  Although of course the sentence is *literally* >> true because the regex would be unanchored, and therefore it's sufficient >> to match only the 'ab', and the rest of the input doesn't matter. >> But that's just confusing, and doesn't belong in this kind of document. > > It goes on to say "as will a line containing a 'b' anywhere in its value", > so the text does recognize the zero-width-matching parts don't affect what > matches. (I suppose they would affect what goes to BASH_REMATCH[0], but the > text doesn't mention that.) The portion of the manual before the example explains BASH_REMATCH and BASH_REMATCH[0]. It also says "a sequence of characters in the value..." when describing the pattern. This is the usual behavior of regcomp/regexec (and grep/egrep, for that matter, since grep will print lines when a substring matches the supplied pattern). > I think it would be a better example with the anchored version also > presented for comparison. How about saying you can anchor the match with the usual ^ and $ special pattern characters? Chet -- ``The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne.'' - Chaucer ``Ars longa, vita brevis'' - Hippocrates Chet Ramey, UTech, CWRU chet@case.edu http://tiswww.cwru.edu/~chet/