Path: csiph.com!goblin2!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!usenet.stanford.edu!not-for-mail From: Stephane Chazelas Newsgroups: gnu.bash.bug Subject: Re: Design question(s), re: why use of tmp-files or named-pipes(/dev/fd/N) instead of plain pipes? Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 11:04:58 +0100 Lines: 32 Approved: bug-bash@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <56218DA5.8030501@tlinx.org> <5622CDC8.2030102@case.edu> <5622EB23.6020700@tlinx.org> <56242D11.3050106@case.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lists.gnu.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: usenet.stanford.edu 1445249112 8076 208.118.235.17 (19 Oct 2015 10:05:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: action@cs.stanford.edu Cc: Linda Walsh , bug-bash To: Chet Ramey Envelope-to: bug-bash@gnu.org DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=UFqU1bcyxnkbI634Bbu6mi3ITlNJGx/3tgZZT3hB+FQ=; b=HNN6r9Jj6fw7OfBu+aJRJAVszjBiI8uvQrwa4AeG0NBf1olBUkDNyVlWDrFmUK8dX6 sMX9yYkhjVak3xwsCZj20RX6HNZ0nQrMnYXtvIefDvr2zkej7TsWgtpnHcHuHPG3HlUE tKlljbyRfq2YOvNwySYcUN0ST50TOPxuyeKe4p9Rn7K4PlFmRhAo7U9biVDj4BCrizFf JmhmnBJk5ER5zwFyWJGPHRMn9C32njMaXR5zUJKqOa1Xf4Mmsm2MAPD9kvR25yviKQoI ySBRK/+aqvLA/worXcIONLG7Tcw0D8t5bc7Do96tvFiDw5DJ5R6zMosl4HV+2SPGuo1+ d8qw== X-Received: by 10.180.87.71 with SMTP id v7mr11309835wiz.77.1445249100338; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 03:05:00 -0700 (PDT) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <56242D11.3050106@case.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4010:c07::22e X-BeenThere: bug-bash@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Bug reports for the GNU Bourne Again SHell List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: csiph.com gnu.bash.bug:11701 2015-10-18 19:36:49 -0400, Chet Ramey: > On 10/17/15 8:43 PM, Linda Walsh wrote: [...] > > ??? I've never seen a usage where it expands to a filename and > > is treated as such. > > Every example of process substitution ever given expands to a filename, > and the result is treated as a filename. [...] Possibly (though unlikely) the confusion comes from the yash shell where <(...), >(...) are for process *redirection* instead of process *substitution*. In yash. ls >(process-stdout-cmd) 2>(process-stderr-cmd) Does run those process-stdout-cmd and process-stderr-cmd commands in background and ls's stdout and stderr are pipes to their input. See http://unix.stackexchange.com/a/208133 http://unix.stackexchange.com/a/86372 for some more details and example usage. -- Stephane