Path: csiph.com!optima2.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.glorb.com!usenet.stanford.edu!not-for-mail From: Chet Ramey Newsgroups: gnu.bash.bug Subject: Re: Inconsistent arithmetic evaluation of parameters Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 11:24:42 -0400 Lines: 19 Approved: bug-bash@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <61895190-83A6-4D62-B90E-65023D5E966B@gmail.com> <20150901175030.GP4309@eeg.ccf.org> <20150901202308.GR4309@eeg.ccf.org> <87r3mhu91x.fsf@igel.home> <20150902151948.GT4309@eeg.ccf.org> Reply-To: chet.ramey@case.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: lists.gnu.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: usenet.stanford.edu 1441207527 31901 208.118.235.17 (2 Sep 2015 15:25:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: action@cs.stanford.edu Cc: "bug-bash@gnu.org" , chet.ramey@case.edu To: Greg Wooledge , Dennis Williamson Envelope-to: bug-bash@gnu.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.2.0 In-Reply-To: <20150902151948.GT4309@eeg.ccf.org> X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/60, host=mpv5.cwru.edu X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mpv1.tis.cwru.edu) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 129.22.105.36 X-BeenThere: bug-bash@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Bug reports for the GNU Bourne Again SHell List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: csiph.com gnu.bash.bug:11465 On 9/2/15 11:19 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Sep 02, 2015 at 10:16:14AM -0500, Dennis Williamson wrote: >> The $ is implied. > > That is completely absurd. (And wrong.) Not exactly. When the arithmetic evaluator encounters a token that is of the form of a shell identifier (`bar'), in a context where an operand is needed, it treats it as a shell variable and looks up the variable's value. In that sense, it's an expansion. The difference between bash and dash is what each shell does with that value. -- ``The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne.'' - Chaucer ``Ars longa, vita brevis'' - Hippocrates Chet Ramey, ITS, CWRU chet@case.edu http://cnswww.cns.cwru.edu/~chet/