Path: csiph.com!goblin2!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!usenet.stanford.edu!not-for-mail From: Grisha Levit Newsgroups: gnu.bash.bug Subject: Re: Indices of array variables are sometimes considered unset (or just display an error). Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2018 01:03:30 -0500 Lines: 17 Approved: bug-bash@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <87va5bp5fr.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lists.gnu.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Trace: usenet.stanford.edu 1541484228 22227 208.118.235.17 (6 Nov 2018 06:03:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: action@cs.stanford.edu Cc: greatbigdot@gmail.com, bug-bash To: dualbus@gmail.com Envelope-to: bug-bash@gnu.org DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=83l4+mmcEhx9L3wGF0/aNNwfjdsQGKeXfpw6Uk5VFaY=; b=VN66+6Jaq72NlIZYVDLUOe9THK7ttD9fjCcmsyEwqoDkeOEuhEySFGNGKma+CgOCJA 3nCqPO9aeHhUDV0NFgIdKpp+DkyQXO5Pex4FHgzTi4gN3RWabAI2NYaekAzhFAbIID/5 6h3IUlASm17mMG6A5jXxgGbcaMxszwymQ5XaEx81q6JasbhGykqq1qHt2nXubgVe6zBZ ML42fEnRLVygF6LDIo2Hiigz+uBgZ4KpL205QZUnDp95Di/YSmNKZE8xl18MAkF33E2p B0J9Q/yDt/W42tPQzqRG2xGhdruJNvtwTE8vCATwtyv7uyPWD+UOL/jzQ9lFksyP4QOT 7Pog== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=83l4+mmcEhx9L3wGF0/aNNwfjdsQGKeXfpw6Uk5VFaY=; b=pg9tQXTtQQdBd142HxKwYGc5QZAJrsGS+IDI0uZfniSTd5B4KvuY/+YNSq0vEIiI9Y /bd3QVfqDeg0M+6K18ehM2jjYm3kHc4W8Yw5EyVPa2VwdsPZPn8BTiX+x6NT/nMGL8RX aUxfQQYWj/8ZbTIKOE/tAJmqA1znmkLNisWv0kqbw2FtJuAeUocVyNvoZ8bmrYP3d2th ZAjxx3xTedtu21UX8ZujX1Ep31D7SzpYEbjNTlfiMHAbQ9LovF99nQeh/qF1rvOOmr90 uKZACA7cFQA5bD8DZgEXCufF/X7WYiTZlTBkPlVm6BPLky9jZxW6b9+y5I/YA98OCx+p 8jgg== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gIh8rXHs4z6kA6IdgPupYBUCf+8w/FH1SxjgJ+uGyOvYJG6mi4m sx6QHv00DwLK0HWe6V8eHAoN6VOCB1iVQ7YEyqA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5cQ4DSSZmG6hUObgCZbBOtt0DxVTIG/SLMnNxmP1mR770bgPN/brJwFQv8oqcpqww2xGp8RmXomnsqkPDMLmUs= X-Received: by 2002:a0c:b407:: with SMTP id u7mr10624333qve.179.1541484221894; Mon, 05 Nov 2018 22:03:41 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::833 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: bug-bash@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Bug reports for the GNU Bourne Again SHell List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: csiph.com gnu.bash.bug:14769 On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 10:38 PM Eduardo Bustamante wrote: > Sorry, I'm having a hard time following this email thread. I *think* the point is that OP expected that: (a) ${!var[@]-foo} expands to the indexes of var if ${var[@]} if set, else to `foo' whereas the behavior they observed is: (b) ${!var[@]-foo} expands to the value of the variable whose name is stored in ${var[@]} or to `foo' if that variable is unset Their expectation seems reasonable since "the variable whose name is stored in ${var[@]}" is kind of a weird thing.