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envelope-from=chet.ramey@case.edu; helo=mpv3-2015.case.edu X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/06/22 17:19:50 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: bug-bash@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Bug reports for the GNU Bourne Again SHell List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: X-Mailman-Original-References: Xref: csiph.com gnu.bash.bug:16437 On 6/22/20 4:48 PM, Godmar Back wrote: > (Disclosure: I performed a search for terminal, terminal settings, > tcsetattr in the bash-bug mailing list, without finding a discussion. > My apologies if this is a known issue or was already discussed.) > > Hi, > > according to POSIX Part A, Base Definitions (line 726-728, pg 20, Part > A: Base Definitions-IEEE and The Open Group.), a job control shell has > the following responsibility: > > "When a foreground (not background) job stops, the shell must sample > and remember the current terminal settings so that it can restore them > later when it continues the stopped job in the foreground (via the > tcgetattr( ) and tcsetattr( ) functions)." > > Does bash implement this functionality? If implemented correctly, I > would expect the program appended below to not fail its assertions. Nobody does this. What job control shells do is to save the tty state after a program's successful termination and use that saved state to restore the tty settings after a program stops or terminates due to a signal. > However, it fails - tested with bash 4.4 on CentOS 8 using a pty > created by sshd. > I also looked at the bash 5.0 source code and could not spot where > bash implements this. You can look at get_tty_state() and set_tty_state() in jobs.c. > I first noticed this when students in my class's shell project failed > to properly implement terminal handling, but programs such vi/vim > still continued to work even when stopped and later placed back in the > foreground. I discovered that these programs implement a SIGCONT > handler where they restore their terminal state when continued, but I > wrote this off as an attempt to be robust in the presence of buggy > shells. This is how programs that modify terminal settings, like editors or more/less pagers, do things. It's standard behavior. -- ``The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne.'' - Chaucer ``Ars longa, vita brevis'' - Hippocrates Chet Ramey, UTech, CWRU chet@case.edu http://tiswww.cwru.edu/~chet/