Path: csiph.com!goblin2!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!usenet.stanford.edu!not-for-mail From: worley@alum.mit.edu (Dale R. Worley) Newsgroups: gnu.bash.bug Subject: Re: Local variable names clash with global read-only variable names. Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 22:43:53 -0400 Lines: 25 Approved: bug-bash@gnu.org Message-ID: References: (chet.ramey@case.edu) <87wo5wgys6.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lists.gnu.org X-Trace: usenet.stanford.edu 1588301046 29834 209.51.188.17 (1 May 2020 02:44:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: action@cs.stanford.edu Cc: andrej@podzimek.org, bug-bash@gnu.org, chet.ramey@case.edu To: chet.ramey@case.edu Envelope-to: bug-bash@gnu.org DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcastmailservice.net; s=20180828_2048; t=1588301038; bh=GbrxdsX/noronqJSHhneGZWTXa4RPRkICiAvS4iH6oo=; h=Received:Received:Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date: Message-ID; b=hAn3xpv/zoGPVa/2g7t413Ag12VhFcv8YbZfHk74B0PcdXWNs4Lwh0Jp7EfQOJ1sX GSCFrNPGazjK4K8IlQBx1VmMfxM7eiP1NRJgG4QRe81gyJttdsnPdJNSQtVu1Ta6cA pd355tcak9d9Whm+9DRqRzk3IU0TStrcgJ1TtwyIvL5clAtBjR7TnQUkMQW4wB7kU/ MYtaJwU/GUg6ANls7AUp6lKkBXhalj6rzuE+/zb2SyFDChAwS0d3dMskYCqXaG0i/t DT4yCOEe7ctIzG0+VklQpXuDNJPu35FPRUdAJVkIHiPRAIPVzD1Qoxcu/TR4urY2yX 2ozaTQGVIthTQ== X-Xfinity-VMeta: sc=0.00;st=legit X-Authentication-Warning: hobgoblin.ariadne.com: worley set sender to worley@alum.mit.edu using -f In-Reply-To: (chet.ramey@case.edu) Received-SPF: permerror client-ip=2001:558:fe21:29:69:252:207:34; envelope-from=worley@alum.mit.edu; helo=resqmta-ch2-02v.sys.comcast.net X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/04/30 22:43:58 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = ??? X-Received-From: 2001:558:fe21:29:69:252:207:34 X-BeenThere: bug-bash@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Bug reports for the GNU Bourne Again SHell List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: <87wo5wgys6.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com> Xref: csiph.com gnu.bash.bug:16260 >>> f() { local x=a; } >>> declare -r x >>> f # bash: local: x: readonly variable >>> >>> This^^^ should not fail; it hinders reusability of shell functions and makes >>> them context-dependent. It's "natural" to think that a variable that is local to a function should be independent of however it is declared globally. The problem is that bash local variables aren't lexically scoped -- when you enter the function, the variable acquires the new value, but any function that is called by this function sees the new value, even if that function wasn't declared inside the function that declared the variable local. So if a local declaration could override a readonly declaration, the new value could be seen by code unrelated the function that did the override. This is a common issue in language design. The Perl language originally only had "local" declarations that behaved the same way as bash local declarations. But the above behavior got to be so much of a problem for large programs that Perl added a separate lexically-scoped local declaration. Dale