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envelope-from=chet.ramey@case.edu; helo=mpv1-2015.case.edu X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/07/19 15:21:11 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: bug-bash@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Bug reports for the GNU Bourne Again SHell List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: <5f066ef0-1fed-ad5b-d564-490268d32427@case.edu> X-Mailman-Original-References: <8ddc4816-f85e-97b3-5c51-9b55acdcaca5@case.edu> Xref: csiph.com gnu.bash.bug:16582 On 7/19/20 1:47 AM, Oğuz wrote: > By the way, > wouldn't it be better if the same tilde expansion rules as with assignment > statements was applied to parameter expansions that assign default values? > Like, > >     unset foo >     echo ${foo=~:~otheruser} > > assigns `/home/oguz:~otheruser' to `foo' regardless of whether `otheruser' > is a valid login name for an existing user. Maybe, but Posix says this isn't a variable assignment context, as POSIX defines variable assignments, and technically the shell shouldn't perform tilde expansions after `=' or `:' at all. You could argue that bash has a bug here in that it expands the tilde after the `='. -- ``The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne.'' - Chaucer ``Ars longa, vita brevis'' - Hippocrates Chet Ramey, UTech, CWRU chet@case.edu http://tiswww.cwru.edu/~chet/