Path: csiph.com!tncsrv06.tnetconsulting.net!news.snarked.org!news.linkpendium.com!news.linkpendium.com!panix!usenet.stanford.edu!not-for-mail From: Chet Ramey Newsgroups: gnu.bash.bug Subject: Re: set -e ignored in subshell if part of command list Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2019 11:30:05 -0500 Lines: 44 Approved: bug-bash@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <13040a55-507d-e072-e827-be7c33be968f@case.edu> Reply-To: chet.ramey@case.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: lists.gnu.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: usenet.stanford.edu 1573662614 1954 209.51.188.17 (13 Nov 2019 16:30:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: action@cs.stanford.edu Cc: chet.ramey@case.edu, bug-bash@gnu.org To: Shaun Crampton Envelope-to: bug-bash@gnu.org DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=case.edu; s=smtp-primary; t=1573662607; bh=sw359K8P5avztldwi7ej1R29hwro1kmbyvMXaK9bDrI=; h=Reply-To:Cc:Subject:To:References:From:Message-ID:Date: MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=sjeAShScEIOB9W/+x7r/7pZYpzrd+GzhoheJe31osQx0S+AvP6BO8vjUi2cZjnDNoT 0iyIvrjgQH0l6iRf4cL2DD7da43IoHGOa5YzsaNcwek86lrLLEaCck5rdYh54MUv1VD lYeBTcDFiaUvhjeSrjAWBgcARGBoLqVIRJJbryUQRETYR5YQGZEyuYeWyYnAYbszMc/ hZtuIveHYnSOoaI0TYhX9B+/nX1ohw+2wJam8znZxNsZwpzRfyH4hShrRGcsmQOqpkz sc3ERXxPbat+WgQMiEHpEhySOAxEDt5aLBWpZWNPBh0+eMMYuYAD8JQe0JY9XrGaswH cg+YGEAg== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=case.edu; s=smtp-primary; t=1573662606; bh=IOo0DZaE26fL7m9noQeqiYIcvkMGQm79upEGsR2yTLU=; h=Reply-To:Cc:Subject:To:References:From:Message-ID:Date: MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=XWzc8xVJdkW9zDsjJYLNzK78DV4sBShZom12FD/V1Jc9hzfdj5ao8jmoaXvLurfLUE AQWc+7K3SQlf/HIeL1Qvyn6iwwZljxInOKgICJ38HxxzOmtUc9GunEJ5wGo4paNxcLN jm3UDRLYYiLoGCFIq98UxPrWWnI8urOJw1aOTbKm4nvn8xnZdl4oltmy1MOZ3/AoALC iw+83zNgcgKTCAofxsvaj40lvgOgYnVItqwCBTFeqo06/No/OWmocKIDb6Jq918qzcH 00bPVx/NAzh4V1X5AOU5nUO6nxN3uMm3jFVL0krOmkVTKvJwy79SvrZCjvzXMBhV1dA Sv47dWlA== User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.2.2 In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US X-Junkmail-Status: score=8/90, host=mpv1-2015.case.edu X-Junkmail-PrAS-Raw: score=8/90, refid=2.7.2:2019.11.13.153916:17:8.317, ip=, rules=DKIM_SIGNATURE, __HAS_REPLYTO, __HAS_CC_HDR, __MULTIPLE_RCPTS_CC_X2, __SUBJ_REPLY, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __SUBJ_ALPHA_END, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __TO_NAME, __TO_NAME_DIFF_FROM_ACC, __HAS_REFERENCES, __REFERENCES, __HAS_FROM, FROM_EDU_TLD, __HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, DATE_TZ_NA, __USER_AGENT, __MOZILLA_USER_AGENT, __MIME_VERSION, __IN_REP_TO, __CT, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN, __CTE, __REPLYTO_SAMEAS_FROM_ADDY, __REPLYTO_SAMEAS_FROM_ACC, __FROM_DOMAIN_IN_ANY_CC2, __REPLYTO_SAMEAS_FROM_DOMAIN, __DKIM_ALIGNS_1, __DKIM_ALIGNS_2, __ANY_URI, __URI_MAILTO, __URI_WITH_PATH, __URI_NO_WWW, __CP_URI_IN_BODY, __SUBJ_ALPHA_NEGATE, __URI_IN_BODY, __URI_NOT_IMG, __FORWARDED_MSG, __BODY_NO_MAILTO, __NO_HTML_TAG_RAW, BODY_SIZE_1900_1999, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS, __MIME_TEXT_P1, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY, __URI_NS, HTML_00_01, HTML_00_10, DKIM_ALIGNS, [TRUNCATED], so=2010-03-03 19:42:08, dmn=2016-08-03-0138 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 129.22.103.226 X-BeenThere: bug-bash@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Bug reports for the GNU Bourne Again SHell List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: X-Mailman-Original-References: <13040a55-507d-e072-e827-be7c33be968f@case.edu> Xref: csiph.com gnu.bash.bug:15674 On 11/13/19 10:59 AM, Shaun Crampton wrote: > But the commands in the subshell execute inside a different shell > execution context so they shouldn't have > their own set -e context (Section 2.12)? Why? That section says the only thing that changes in the subshell environment is signal dispositions. In fact, the example in the set builtin description explicitly assumes the subshell inherits the errexit setting. The only thing the standard requires here is that setting -e in the subshell doesn't change the parent's setting. But that's not exactly the point. The shell is "executing any command of an AND-OR list other than the last" so errexit is ignored. > > I don't see where the spec says that the subshell has to inherit the > and/or list-ness of the > parent context. Section 2.12 doesn't mention that as being one of the > things that a subshell inherits > (and unless I'm missing a good use-case, it seems like a pretty > useless thing to inherit in a subshell > or a function that happens to be called on the LHS of an and/or). "A subshell environment shall be created as a duplicate of the shell environment, except that signal traps that are not being ignored shall be set to the default action. " It's an exact duplicate of the shell environment. It's easier to list the exceptions rather than the long list of things it inherits (more than the list earlier in that section). In any event, it's how existing shells behave, and the standard is attempting to match existing practice. In fact, part of the proposed language from 2009, when this was debated at length, was "The -e option is ignored and cannot be enabled by any command run by these lists" but that was considered unnecessary. -- ``The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne.'' - Chaucer ``Ars longa, vita brevis'' - Hippocrates Chet Ramey, UTech, CWRU chet@case.edu http://tiswww.cwru.edu/~chet/