Path: csiph.com!xmission!news.snarked.org!news.linkpendium.com!news.linkpendium.com!panix!usenet.stanford.edu!not-for-mail From: Marco Ippolito Newsgroups: gnu.bash.bug Subject: -e test description in the GNU Bash 5.0 man page from 7 December 2018 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2019 00:31:41 +0200 Lines: 71 Approved: bug-bash@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <6f5fd3b2-2e3b-4730-b2d8-50b89e9e3085@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lists.gnu.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: usenet.stanford.edu 1571619692 31390 209.51.188.17 (21 Oct 2019 01:01:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: action@cs.stanford.edu To: chet.ramey@case.edu, bug-bash@gnu.org Envelope-to: bug-bash@gnu.org DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=to:from:subject:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-language; bh=SAczVATJFbeK85esQVzhM3CyZeFc/MsyVrsy5RXdRY4=; b=n9E/uGAhy+dThdSDhCmc/I16r71vS4t8oqMDJTHF35YwwJ+YqmxyQ/2j1QaVpDGX8z dHQZfQ2jAdysVrVPJ01JlDsI/oMODND9qVBcuRzLOYjOh8BQ85tT3z5rzTaTtr8C5qgK TmSMKapPQl0ZHejzqIcZAi/2fuIOOcljSJLA1/sbkcq3HqusgLPpZbyFRJPMKlkNk4zm TWZHKauQEPb1ag/hOsIt1KgAdP8jWA0ceBpD9q5hIPX1OzuLTR4Sd4QFIU0FtLJA8/O0 xJmhvX2DjEvbJ9XcJLVKJJqsd9ti37d7fqpeOYx8OSIF8gBWmSNeQSMOwh85EtzyWzKz qBHg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:to:from:subject:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-language; bh=SAczVATJFbeK85esQVzhM3CyZeFc/MsyVrsy5RXdRY4=; b=paGICLbF/E5LA3a5GVDSqTX7mZM5eEwEosYNvQ6xIaAtw9Yrl2fuDWA5p+lNZ/HNVx BSqwmjQphn8+XgTN+NM2jWbzUCVpyDX8tbyHlFzHUyGUsP0Fk9CMG0nc20QR9IK5pFBq KTWMBWgTT3SjqI2nBR+D0GAZMFPo0qttJxuqX+FF6NHwCny2DPE1k4mKGpPo/dWC5Piw dqgHWREZ+ZoFNocDuBQMYp3Rv3STzvlXGy+rat52w/kflTg1WpiU5EQMJcM/mnKi0NOw F9OFLvNDZ0uz0yHrhJ7lBttNfO6BSIeYbKSML5/7JAG5jbRKeqfrejmAgoD4PXd24BGu P/gQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAV/wxqEQTIl8tPjahPWwm+jv6oU5hghtJZX5o6mlJBUsff7aMPH 3Q2PZUdl8lmGSBQ/EXc6xZHEiGvz X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxciny/LTPC63jFBEoWGqdScLWEaL15JEUzw6I20AikABxSHzpi5etZGbfYgLJMoaFP9leQuA== X-Received: by 2002:a5d:5704:: with SMTP id a4mr16033718wrv.281.1571610704658; Sun, 20 Oct 2019 15:31:44 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.0 Content-Language: en-GB X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::442 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 20 Oct 2019 21:01:30 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-bash@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Bug reports for the GNU Bourne Again SHell List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: <6f5fd3b2-2e3b-4730-b2d8-50b89e9e3085@gmail.com> Xref: csiph.com gnu.bash.bug:15523 In the GNU Bash 5.0 man page from 7 December 2018 the -e test is documented as such:        -e file               True if file exists. When "file" is a symlink name to a non-existing target, the -e test fails, and this may be surprising from just reading the documentation. By contrast, POSIX describes the same test as follows:         -e pathname   True if pathname resolves to an existing directory entry. False if    pathname cannot be resolved. POSIX provides an indication as to the potential failure of the test in contexts in which symlink *resolution* is performed. It might be beneficial to reword this Linux man page. It *may* also be beneficial to change the use of "file" in the GNU man page to refer to pathnames, as POSIX does, so that the distinction between "files" and "regular files" be more explicit. Observe this test description on the GNU man page, for example:        -f file               True if file exists and is a regular file. Here is a sample GNU script illustrating the tests alluded to above: #! /usr/bin/env bash # Run me on GNU/Linux cd "$(mktemp --directory)" touch existing_file ln --symbolic existing_file symlink_to_existing_file ln --symbolic non_existing_file symlink_to_non_existing_file ln --symbolic symlink_to_existing_file symlink_to_symlink_to_existing_file ln --symbolic symlink_to_non_existing_file symlink_to_unresolvable_symlink {     for pathname in \         existing_file \         symlink_to_existing_file \         symlink_to_non_existing_file \         symlink_to_symlink_to_existing_file \ symlink_to_unresolvable_symlink do         if [[ -e $pathname ]]; then existence=exists else             existence='does not exist' fi         printf '[[ -e %s ]] \x1f -> \x1f %s\n' "$pathname" "$existence" done; } | column -t -s $'\x1f' Outputs: [[ -e existing_file ]]                          -> exists [[ -e symlink_to_existing_file ]]               ->    exists [[ -e symlink_to_non_existing_file ]]           ->    does not exist [[ -e symlink_to_symlink_to_existing_file ]]    ->    exists [[ -e symlink_to_unresolvable_symlink ]]        ->    does not exist