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Re: abode - both parents?

From Charles Ellson <ce11son@yahoo.ca>
Newsgroups soc.genealogy.britain, england.genealogy.misc
Subject Re: abode - both parents?
Date 2017-12-24 00:19 +0000
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On Sat, 23 Dec 2017 13:16:13 +0100, "Evertjan."
<exxjxw.hannivoort@inter.nl.net> wrote:

>Charles Ellson <ce11son@yahoo.ca> wrote on 23 Dec 2017 in 
>soc.genealogy.britain:
>
>>>Wouldn'd an 'illegitimate' child legally only have a mother at birth?
>>>
>> No, the father (if unrecorded) is merely unrecorded. All fathers would
>> have some kind of legal paternal obligation/connection to the child
>> starting from the moment of birth whether identified at that time or
>> not.
>
>Well, my mistake, I should have said 'administrative', not 'legal'.
>
>Methinks, you should not see the fathers name on such[!] an English [or 
>Scottish] birth-certificate?
>
With an illegitimate child, the father's name will be recorded on the
birth registration if both parents attend together. That is for most
purposes conclusive proof of paternity until such time it might be
rebutted (e.g. a paternity test disproves the registered person being
the father). When a child is registered as the offspring of a married
mother there is until it is rebutted (sometimes at the time of
registration if an adulterous father co-registers) a legal presumption
that the wife's spouse is the father. The father's identity can also
be added if he supplies the mother with a statutary declaration of
parentage or a court action identifies him as the father; an unmarried
mother registering a birth cannot give the father's name at the time
of registration otherwise. In Scotland, records of marriage and death
can also include the name of a reputed father.

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