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Re: for unpacking

From Patrick Rudin <taxi_bs@gmx.ch>
Newsgroups de.comp.lang.python
Subject Re: for unpacking
Date 2025-10-06 22:46 +0200
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Peter J. Holzer wrote:
> Rein interessehalber: Von welchen Sprachen kommst Du, dass Du Aliases
> als üblich empfindest?

Eigentlich nicht Alias, aber mir ist inzwischen eingefallen, dass ich 
mich vor geraumer Zeit intensiv mit C beschäftigt habe. Dort kann man 
natürlich beliebige Zeiger auf eine Adresse richten und dann 
rummutieren. Genau das will man mit den immutable-Typen ja verhindern, 
mal abgesehen von Effizienzfragen.

Ironie der Geschichte ist irgendwie, dass man zum wirklichen Verständnis 
vom Python (sprich: Wissen, was man da tut) genau soviel 
Hintergrundwissen benötigt wie bei C. Die ganzen Abstraktionsebenen 
machen es nicht einfacher...


Gruss

Patrick

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  Re: for unpacking "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-08-06 23:45 +0200
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  Re: for unpacking "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-08-07 00:02 +0200
    Re: for unpacking Patrick Rudin <taxi_bs@gmx.ch> - 2024-08-07 11:54 +0200
      Re: for unpacking "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-08-07 13:21 +0200
        Re: for unpacking Patrick Rudin <taxi_bs@gmx.ch> - 2024-08-07 22:58 +0200
    Re: for unpacking Patrick Rudin <taxi_bs@gmx.ch> - 2024-08-09 22:18 +0200
      Re: for unpacking Patrick Rudin <taxi_bs@gmx.ch> - 2024-08-10 12:07 +0200
        Re: for unpacking "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-08-10 13:49 +0200
      Re: for unpacking "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-08-10 12:46 +0200
        Re: for unpacking Patrick Rudin <taxi_bs@gmx.ch> - 2024-08-10 22:09 +0200
          Re: for unpacking "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-08-11 12:26 +0200
            Re: for unpacking "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-08-11 15:05 +0200
              Re: for unpacking "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-08-11 17:44 +0200
            Re: for unpacking Patrick Rudin <taxi_bs@gmx.ch> - 2024-08-11 17:26 +0200
              Re: for unpacking "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-08-11 18:16 +0200
                Re: for unpacking Patrick Rudin <taxi_bs@gmx.ch> - 2024-08-11 23:18 +0200
                Re: for unpacking "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-08-11 23:43 +0200
                Re: for unpacking Patrick Rudin <taxi_bs@gmx.ch> - 2024-08-12 21:03 +0200
                Re: for unpacking Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-08-13 02:44 +0200
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                Re: for unpacking "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-08-13 19:47 +0200
                Re: for unpacking Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-08-14 04:38 +0200
                Re: for unpacking "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-08-14 08:26 +0200
                Re: for unpacking Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-08-14 10:25 +0200
                Re: for unpacking "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-08-14 13:22 +0200
                Re: for unpacking Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-08-14 14:45 +0200
                Re: for unpacking Patrick Rudin <taxi_bs@gmx.ch> - 2024-08-12 21:06 +0200
                Re: for unpacking "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-08-13 00:24 +0200
                Re: for unpacking Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-08-14 14:41 +0200
                Re: for unpacking Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-08-14 18:39 +0200
                Re: for unpacking Ralph Aichinger <ralph@pi.h5.or.at> - 2024-08-14 17:05 +0000
                Re: for unpacking Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2024-08-15 05:44 +0200
                Re: for unpacking Patrick Rudin <taxi_bs@gmx.ch> - 2024-08-16 13:31 +0200
                Re: for unpacking Patrick Rudin <taxi_bs@gmx.ch> - 2024-08-13 23:06 +0200
                Re: for unpacking "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-08-13 23:19 +0200
                Re: for unpacking Patrick Rudin <taxi_bs@gmx.ch> - 2024-08-14 21:11 +0200
                Re: for unpacking Patrick Rudin <taxi_bs@gmx.ch> - 2024-08-14 21:08 +0200
        Re: for unpacking Patrick Rudin <taxi_bs@gmx.ch> - 2025-10-06 22:46 +0200
          Re: for unpacking "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2025-10-06 23:37 +0200
            Re: for unpacking Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2025-10-07 09:01 +0200
              Re: for unpacking Patrick Rudin <taxi_bs@gmx.ch> - 2025-10-07 14:22 +0200
                Re: for unpacking ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2025-10-07 13:13 +0000
                Re: for unpacking Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2025-10-07 15:34 +0200
                Re: for unpacking Patrick Rudin <taxi_bs@gmx.ch> - 2025-10-07 22:57 +0200
            Re: for unpacking Patrick Rudin <taxi_bs@gmx.ch> - 2025-10-10 21:50 +0200
  [Python-de] Re: for unpacking Mike Müller <mmueller@python-academy.de> - 2024-08-07 09:14 +0200
    Re: [Python-de] Re: for unpacking Patrick Rudin <taxi_bs@gmx.ch> - 2024-08-07 11:57 +0200
      Re: [Python-de] Re: for unpacking "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet4@hjp.at> - 2024-08-08 23:18 +0200
      [Python-de] Re: for unpacking Mike Müller <mmueller@python-academy.de> - 2024-08-09 08:03 +0200
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