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Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2024 10:39:50 +0200
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On Tue, 9 Apr 2024, Janis Papanagnou wrote:

> On 08.04.2024 21:44, Kenny McCormack wrote:
>> In article <20240408122937.339@kylheku.com>,
>> Kaz Kylheku  <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> wrote:
>> ...
>>> You wrote, "people like you ... would never use a male pronoun if
>>> talking about nurses", written by you, is already ad hominem;
>>> it's a direct accusation of hypocrisy, rather than focusing on the
>>> argument content.
>>>
>>> If you can't handle the ad-hominem ball returned to your court,
>>> don't serve it!
>>
>> We'd all be better off if nobody ever used the phrase 'ad hominem' ever
>> again on Usenet.
>>
>> This also goes for the rest of those fancy Latin phrases that people use to
>> argue about arguing.
>
> Id est, exempli gratia, focussing on the argument per se, as
> Kaz sensibly suggested. :-)
>
> (It's good that in English most of the Latin is hidden behind
> abbreviations like i.e. and e.g.; but there's no abbreviation
> for "per se"? Probably because p.s. is already occupied?)
>
> Janis
>
> PS: Of course I disagree for the "banning phrases" suggestion.
> Pointing out (in whatever way) to stay on the argument is fine.

In todays day and world, it is not very difficult to look up phrases such 
as ad hominem. I do it from time to time. I learn something by doing that, 
and should thank the other person for bringing it to my attention.

Then, the next time I encounter it, I do not have to look it up again.