Re: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux

From	candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
Newsgroups	comp.unix.programmer
Subject	Re: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux
Date	2024-09-07 18:20 +0000
Organization	the-candyden-of-code
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Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote at 17:21 this Thursday (GMT):
> Ralf Fassel <ralfixx@gmx.de> writes:
>> * Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid>
>> | Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> writes:
>> | > [...] For example, I might type something like:
>> | >
>> | >     for file in * ; do cp -p $file $file.bak ; done
>> |
>> | That’s the heart of the matter. Field splitting happens after
>> | parameter expansion.
>>
>> Only sometimes it doesn't :-)
>>
>>     $ foo="foo bar"
>>     $ bar=$foo
>>
>> No problem with the space in the expanded value here!
>>
>>     $ echo $bar
>>     foo bar
>>
>> but of course:
>>    ls $bar
>>    ls: cannot access 'foo': No such file or directory
>>    ls: cannot access 'bar': No such file or directory
>
> Fair point. “Field splitting happens after parameter expansion, except
> when it doesn’t”.


Actually, echo is special since it just prints every argument it's
given.. both of these commands are working as expected with splitting:

	$ echo some text

	some text

	$ ls some text

	ls: cannot access 'some': No such file or directory
	ls: cannot access 'text': No such file or directory
-- 
user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

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Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux (Was: Piping to stdin) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2024-08-31 05:57 +0000
  Re: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-08-31 09:27 +0100
    Re: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-08-31 08:39 +0000
    Re: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-08-31 23:34 +0000
      Re: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-01 07:03 +0000
        Re: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-01 09:10 +0100
        Re: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux Helmut Waitzmann <nn.throttle@xoxy.net> - 2024-09-01 19:51 +0200
        Putting arbitrary characters into the shell command line (was: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux) Helmut Waitzmann <nn.throttle@xoxy.net> - 2024-09-01 21:07 +0200
        Re: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux Wayne <wayne@nospam.invalid> - 2024-09-03 13:56 -0400
          Re: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-03 21:54 +0000
        Re: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-09-08 07:24 +0200
      Arbitrary characters in filenames (was: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux) Helmut Waitzmann <nn.throttle@xoxy.net> - 2024-09-01 20:06 +0200
  Re: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux (Was: Piping to stdin) Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-08-31 08:37 +0000
    Re: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux (Was: Piping to stdin) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-09-03 08:44 -0700
      Re: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux (Was: Piping to stdin) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-09-03 15:47 +0000
        Re: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux (Was: Piping to stdin) Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2024-09-03 15:54 +0000
      Re: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux (Was: Piping to stdin) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2024-09-03 16:10 +0000
        Re: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux (Was: Piping to Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-09-04 07:27 +0000
          User surveys (Was: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux (Was: Piping to) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2024-09-04 11:27 +0000
            Re: User surveys (Was: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux (Was: Piping to) Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-09-04 13:12 +0000
      Re: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux (Was: Piping to stdin) Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2024-09-03 17:37 +0000
        Re: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux (Was: Piping to stdin) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-09-03 11:39 -0700
          Re: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux (Was: Piping to stdin) Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2024-09-03 20:11 +0000
            Re: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux (Was: Piping to stdin) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-09-03 13:25 -0700
              Re: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux (Was: Piping to stdin) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-09-03 20:34 +0000
                Re: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux (Was: Piping to stdin) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-03 21:52 +0000
              Re: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-09-03 15:16 -0700
                Re: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-03 22:18 +0000
                Re: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-09-03 22:59 +0000
                Re: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-09-03 16:10 -0700
                Re: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-03 23:54 +0000
                Re: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-09-03 17:27 -0700
                Re: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-04 00:44 +0000
                Re: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-09-03 21:36 -0700
                Re: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-04 07:05 +0000
                Re: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux Ralf Fassel <ralfixx@gmx.de> - 2024-09-04 11:47 +0200
                Re: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-09-04 03:44 -0700
                Re: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-04 13:33 +0100
                Always use "--" (Was: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2024-09-04 13:04 +0000
                Re: Always use "--" (Was: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux) Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2024-09-04 13:17 +0000
                Re: Always use "--" (Was: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-04 21:35 +0000
                Re: Always use "--" (Was: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux) Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2024-09-05 02:29 +0000
                Re: Always use "--" (Was: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux) Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2024-09-05 14:48 +0000
                Re: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2024-09-03 17:35 -0700
                Re: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2024-09-03 23:15 +0000
                Re: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-09-03 16:38 -0700
                Re: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-03 23:56 +0000
                Re: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-09-03 17:19 -0700
                Re: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-04 00:41 +0000
                Re: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-09-03 21:29 -0700
                Re: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-09-04 06:49 +0000
                Re: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-04 10:16 +0100
                Re: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2024-09-04 14:30 +0000
                Re: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-09-04 08:41 -0700
                Re: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-09-04 15:57 +0000
                Re: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-04 18:03 +0100
                Re: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux Ralf Fassel <ralfixx@gmx.de> - 2024-09-05 11:29 +0200
                Re: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-09-05 18:21 +0100
                Re: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-09-07 18:20 +0000
                Word splitting oddities (Was: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2024-09-07 21:51 +0000
                Re: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-09-10 07:17 +0200
          Re: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux (Was: Piping to stdin) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-09-10 06:51 +0200
      Re: Long filenames in DOS/Windows and Unix/Linux (Was: Piping to Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-09-04 07:31 +0000
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