Path: csiph.com!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Ben Bacarisse Newsgroups: sci.logic,comp.theory,comp.ai.philosophy Subject: Re: dishonest subject lines Followup-To: comp.theory Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2023 17:02:46 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 29 Message-ID: <87r0q69l5l.fsf_-_@bsb.me.uk> References: <580d711a-afd0-4eae-b2bd-84b0126905d3n@googlegroups.com> <6a7076e8-79b9-49cb-8da9-dc538329cf89n@googlegroups.com> <87wmzzjjv6.fsf@bsb.me.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="4c6daad976f0015f94eedb7b5cde6d3c"; logging-data="2614527"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/A/L227iqL+TP3tsbyNRxz62TAzbshijk=" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:h4FqQ8828BnUmGsaf+dE3xsgvMo= sha1:L1/EOXK/UXejt0vrQFgLCzf9Dcg= X-BSB-Auth: 1.5f586b7814156d5e8952.20230620170246BST.87r0q69l5l.fsf_-_@bsb.me.uk Xref: csiph.com sci.logic:254717 comp.theory:65020 comp.ai.philosophy:29780 Richard Damon writes: >> On 6/19/2023 3:08 PM, Ben Bacarisse wrote: >>> Me: "do you still assert that [...] false is the "correct" answer even >>>      though P(P) halts?" >>> >>> PO: Yes that is the correct answer even though P(P) halts. >>> This was not a slip of the tongue.  He has been quite clear that he is >>> talking about something other than what the world calls halting.  It's >>> about what /would/ happen if the program were slight different, not >>> about what actually happens: >>> >>> PO: "A non-halting computation is every computation that never halts >>>      unless its simulation is aborted.  This maps to every element of the >>>      conventional halting problem set of non-halting computations and a >>>      few more." > Ben is just pointing out the ERRORS in your logic I don't think I pointed to any errors of logic. I just quoted PO so that readers can see what he's talking about. Why do you keep making posts with personally derogatory subject lines? You are just amplifying his nasty voice. -- Ben.