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Re: Adding a hardware swap partition

From The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.sys.raspberry-pi
Subject Re: Adding a hardware swap partition
Date 2026-03-13 16:01 +0000
Organization A little, after lunch
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On 13/03/2026 14:16, Theo wrote:
> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> I think that is an interesting summary, the point being made that speed
>> is dominated today by disk access times, not CPU cycles in addressing  a
>> file system.
>> And with the demise of spinning rust, there is no seek delay either, so
>> the theoretical advantages of an actual partition in the disks low
>> sector area, no longer outweigh the operational simplicity of a swap file.
>>
>> Like so many other things that grew out of limited RAM and slow spinning
>> rust disks, the swap partition is really no longer necessary...
> 
> One advantage of a swap partition is that it's a dedicated space - if you
> start running low on space it may limit the size of swapfile that can be
> created, which has a knock-on impact on performance.
> 
I dont think you understand the nature of a swapfile.

It is a fixed length file.


> Another reason is if you're using hibernate.  You need swap space at least
> as large as RAM to save out your memory contents to, so that can prevent
> hibernate working if you are running low on space.  Also hibernate/restore
> is a fairly low-level process and swap partitions are easier to setup for
> that than swap files.
> 
Again, you are talking bollocks. Swap files are pre-allocated, of fixed 
size, and zero filled.


> Theo

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Adding a hardware swap partition bp@www.zefox.net - 2026-03-11 16:20 +0000
  Re: Adding a hardware swap partition The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-11 16:43 +0000
  Re: Adding a hardware swap partition Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-11 21:39 +0000
    Re: Adding a hardware swap partition bp@www.zefox.net - 2026-03-12 15:37 +0000
      Re: Adding a hardware swap partition Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-12 20:59 +0000
        Re: Adding a hardware swap partition bp@www.zefox.net - 2026-03-13 01:26 +0000
          Re: Adding a hardware swap partition The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-13 11:15 +0000
            Re: Adding a hardware swap partition Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-03-13 14:16 +0000
              Re: Adding a hardware swap partition The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-13 16:01 +0000
                Re: Adding a hardware swap partition Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-03-13 18:28 +0000
                Re: Adding a hardware swap partition The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-13 21:50 +0000
              Re: Adding a hardware swap partition druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2026-03-13 21:26 +0000
          Re: Adding a hardware swap partition Kees Nuyt <kees@nospam.demon.invalid> - 2026-03-13 22:25 +0100
  Re: Adding a hardware swap partition Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> - 2026-03-12 09:13 +0000
    Re: Adding a hardware swap partition Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> - 2026-03-12 09:31 +0000
  Re: Adding a hardware swap partition Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> - 2026-03-12 10:07 +0000
  Re: Adding a hardware swap partition Jim Diamond <zsd@jdvb.ca> - 2026-03-13 14:40 -0300
    Re: Adding a hardware swap partition druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2026-03-15 13:25 +0000
      Re: Adding a hardware swap partition The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-15 14:02 +0000
        Re: Adding a hardware swap partition Josef Möllers <josef@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-15 17:02 +0100
        Re: Adding a hardware swap partition Jim Diamond <zsd@jdvb.ca> - 2026-03-15 18:04 -0300
          Re: Adding a hardware swap partition Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-15 21:31 +0000
            Re: Adding a hardware swap partition Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-03-16 16:01 +0000
              Re: Adding a hardware swap partition Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-16 22:53 +0000
          Re: Adding a hardware swap partition bp@www.zefox.net - 2026-03-15 22:53 +0000
            Re: Adding a hardware swap partition Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-16 01:41 +0000
            Re: Adding a hardware swap partition Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-16 09:54 +0000
              Re: Adding a hardware swap partition Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2026-03-16 11:49 +0000
                Re: Adding a hardware swap partition Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-16 12:18 +0000
            Re: Adding a hardware swap partition Jim Diamond <zsd@jdvb.ca> - 2026-03-17 18:30 -0300
              Re: Adding a hardware swap partition bp@www.zefox.net - 2026-03-19 01:36 +0000
                Re: Adding a hardware swap partition Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-19 08:52 +0000
                Re: Adding a hardware swap partition bp@www.zefox.net - 2026-03-19 14:49 +0000
                Re: Adding a hardware swap partition The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-19 19:23 +0000
                Re: Adding a hardware swap partition Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-19 22:01 +0000
                Re: Adding a hardware swap partition Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-19 22:00 +0000
                Re: Adding a hardware swap partition bp@www.zefox.net - 2026-03-20 03:50 +0000
                Re: Adding a hardware swap partition The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-20 07:02 +0000
                Re: Adding a hardware swap partition Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-19 22:56 +0000
                Re: Adding a hardware swap partition Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2026-03-25 14:53 +0200
                Re: Adding a hardware swap partition bp@www.zefox.net - 2026-03-25 18:53 +0000
          Re: Adding a hardware swap partition The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-16 12:38 +0000

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