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How often do you rebuild your macOS Big Sur v11's Spotlight indexes?

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#137083

From	super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid>
Date	2021-07-02 15:26 -0500
Message-ID	<super70s-46B3CE.15263902072021@reader02.eternal-september.org>
In reply to	#137064

In article <XeGdnWshZZWW-kP9nZ2dnUU7-QNQAAAA@earthlink.com>,
 ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

> It seems I have to do it monthly 
> (https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201716) since it is not finding all 
> matched Office documents in Documents folder. This never happened in 
> older versions like Mojave v10.14. :(
> 
> Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)

EasyFind has always been a much better (and more useful) alternative for 
me. I'm only on El Capitan though and I'm not sure if it's still being 
developed for later systems (probably isn't).

I found Spotlight so obnoxious on earlier systems (like Tiger which I 
still use very often) I installed the shareware app Spotless to kill it.

Thankfully Spotlight isn't as annoying with its automatic rebuilds in El 
Cap.

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#137098

From	Fishrrman <Fishrrman2000@yahoo.com>
Date	2021-07-03 12:14 -0400
Message-ID	<sbq2cu$ofu$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#137064

On 7/1/21 9:08 PM, Ant wrote:
> It seems I have to do it monthly

Answer here: NEVER.
One of the first things I do with all my Macs is to DISABLE 
Spotlight and never use it, ever.

I use "EasyFind" and "Find Any File" when I need to "search" 
for something...

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#137101

From	nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date	2021-07-03 12:59 -0400
Message-ID	<030720211259300888%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to	#137098

In article <sbq2cu$ofu$1@dont-email.me>, Fishrrman
<Fishrrman2000@yahoo.com> wrote:

> One of the first things I do with all my Macs is to DISABLE 
> Spotlight and never use it, ever.

that will break a lot of things.

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#137106

From	Dr Eberhard W Lisse <nospam@lisse.NA>
Date	2021-07-03 21:43 +0200
Message-ID	<ikbsvtFil63U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#137098

Leave the Applications enabled or you loose the Software Update, unless
this is not a required feature.

el

On 2021-07-03 18:14 , Fishrrman wrote:
> On 7/1/21 9:08 PM, Ant wrote:
>> It seems I have to do it monthly
> 
> Answer here: NEVER.
> One of the first things I do with all my Macs is to DISABLE Spotlight
> and never use it, ever.
> 
> I use "EasyFind" and "Find Any File" when I need to "search" for
> something...

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#137107 — Re: How often do you rebuild your macOS Big Sur v11's Spotlight indexes?

From	TimS <timstreater@greenbee.net>
Date	2021-07-03 19:59 +0000
Subject	Re: How often do you rebuild your macOS Big Sur v11's Spotlight indexes?
Message-ID	<ikbtsmFir7bU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#137106

On 03 Jul 2021 at 20:43:57 BST, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <nospam@lisse.NA> wrote:

> Leave the Applications enabled or you loose the Software Update, unless
> this is not a required feature.

On whom would he be loosing it?

-- 
Tim

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#137109 — Re: How often do you rebuild your macOS Big Sur v11's Spotlight indexes?

From	nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date	2021-07-03 17:20 -0400
Subject	Re: How often do you rebuild your macOS Big Sur v11's Spotlight indexes?
Message-ID	<030720211720083984%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to	#137107

In article <ikbtsmFir7bU1@mid.individual.net>, TimS
<timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:

> On 03 Jul 2021 at 20:43:57 BST, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <nospam@lisse.NA> wrote:
> > Leave the Applications enabled or you loose the Software Update, unless
> > this is not a required feature.
> 
> On whom would he be loosing it?

updates should not be loose. the bits fall out and go everywhere.

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#137114

From	Dr Eberhard W Lisse <nospam@lisse.NA>
Date	2021-07-05 00:15 +0200
Message-ID	<ikeq7lF5advU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#137107

My understanding is that Sftware Update doesn't work if you
remove Applications from SPolight.

el

On 2021-07-03 21:59 , TimS wrote:
> On 03 Jul 2021 at 20:43:57 BST, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <nospam@lisse.NA> wrote:
> 
>> Leave the Applications enabled or you loose the Software Update, unless
>> this is not a required feature.
> 
> On whom would he be loosing it?
>

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#137115

From	Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no>
Date	2021-07-04 15:18 -0700
Message-ID	<sbtc3q$sf9$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#137114

On 2021-07-04 3:15 p.m., Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
> My understanding is that Sftware Update doesn't work if you
> remove Applications from SPolight.

Your understanding based on...

...what?

> 
> el
> 
> On 2021-07-03 21:59 , TimS wrote:
>> On 03 Jul 2021 at 20:43:57 BST, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <nospam@lisse.NA> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Leave the Applications enabled or you loose the Software Update, unless
>>> this is not a required feature.
>>
>> On whom would he be loosing it?
>>

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#137119

From	Dr Eberhard Lisse <nospam@lisse.NA>
Date	2021-07-05 10:59 +0200
Message-ID	<ikg00eFc1nvU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#137115

Having removed Applications from Spotlight.


el

On 05/07/2021 00:18, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2021-07-04 3:15 p.m., Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
>> My understanding is that Sftware Update doesn't work if you
>> remove Applications from SPolight.
> 
> Your understanding based on...
> 
> ...what?
> 
>>
>> el
>>
>> On 2021-07-03 21:59 , TimS wrote:
>>> On 03 Jul 2021 at 20:43:57 BST, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <nospam@lisse.NA> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Leave the Applications enabled or you loose the Software Update, unless
>>>> this is not a required feature.
>>>
>>> On whom would he be loosing it?
>>>
> 


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#137132

From	Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no>
Date	2021-07-05 14:07 -0700
Message-ID	<sbvs9t$16v$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#137119

On 2021-07-05 1:59 a.m., Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
> Having removed Applications from Spotlight.

How did you remove Applications from Spotlight...

...and for goodness sake... ...WHY?

> 
> 
> el
> 
> On 05/07/2021 00:18, Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2021-07-04 3:15 p.m., Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
>>> My understanding is that Sftware Update doesn't work if you
>>> remove Applications from SPolight.
>>
>> Your understanding based on...
>>
>> ...what?
>>
>>>
>>> el
>>>
>>> On 2021-07-03 21:59 , TimS wrote:
>>>> On 03 Jul 2021 at 20:43:57 BST, Dr Eberhard W Lisse 
>>>> <nospam@lisse.NA> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Leave the Applications enabled or you loose the Software Update, 
>>>>> unless
>>>>> this is not a required feature.
>>>>
>>>> On whom would he be loosing it?
>>>>
>>
> 
>

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#137134

From	Dr Eberhard W Lisse <nospam@lisse.NA>
Date	2021-07-06 01:05 +0200
Message-ID	<ikhhi4FlbqlU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#137132

Klicking it off in System Preferences -> Spotlight -> Search Results

Experimenting.

el

On 2021-07-05 23:07 , Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2021-07-05 1:59 a.m., Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
>> Having removed Applications from Spotlight.
> 
> How did you remove Applications from Spotlight...
> 
> ...and for goodness sake... ...WHY?
[...]

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#137135

From	Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no>
Date	2021-07-05 16:07 -0700
Message-ID	<sc03c6$aht$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#137134

On 2021-07-05 4:05 p.m., Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
> 
> Klicking it off in System Preferences -> Spotlight -> Search Results
> 
> Experimenting.
> 
> el
> 
> On 2021-07-05 23:07 , Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2021-07-05 1:59 a.m., Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
>>> Having removed Applications from Spotlight.
>>
>> How did you remove Applications from Spotlight...
>>
>> ...and for goodness sake... ...WHY?
> [...]

And did you actually see that it wouldn't find updates...

...or did you just read it on the internet?

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#137137

From	Dr Eberhard W Lisse <nospam@lisse.NA>
Date	2021-07-06 01:25 +0200
Message-ID	<ikhio5Fljh7U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#137135

The words Klicking and Experimenting would imply I actually did that.

A few years (OS versions ago). SInce then I turn everything but Applications
off.

el

On 2021-07-06 01:07 , Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2021-07-05 4:05 p.m., Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
>>
>> Klicking it off in System Preferences -> Spotlight -> Search Results
>>
>> Experimenting.
>>
>> el
>>
>> On 2021-07-05 23:07 , Alan Baker wrote:
>>> On 2021-07-05 1:59 a.m., Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
>>>> Having removed Applications from Spotlight.
>>>
>>> How did you remove Applications from Spotlight...
>>>
>>> ...and for goodness sake... ...WHY?
>> [...]
> 
> And did you actually see that it wouldn't find updates...
> 
> ...or did you just read it on the internet?
> 
>

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#137138

From	Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no>
Date	2021-07-05 17:19 -0700
Message-ID	<sc07ir$2pj$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#137137

On 2021-07-05 4:25 p.m., Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
> The words Klicking and Experimenting would imply I actually did that.

And the fact that you didn't answer directly would suggest that you didn't.

> 
> A few years (OS versions ago). SInce then I turn everything but 
> Applications
> off.
> 
> el
> 
> On 2021-07-06 01:07 , Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2021-07-05 4:05 p.m., Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
>>>
>>> Klicking it off in System Preferences -> Spotlight -> Search Results
>>>
>>> Experimenting.
>>>
>>> el
>>>
>>> On 2021-07-05 23:07 , Alan Baker wrote:
>>>> On 2021-07-05 1:59 a.m., Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
>>>>> Having removed Applications from Spotlight.
>>>>
>>>> How did you remove Applications from Spotlight...
>>>>
>>>> ...and for goodness sake... ...WHY?
>>> [...]
>>
>> And did you actually see that it wouldn't find updates...
>>
>> ...or did you just read it on the internet?
>>
>>

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#137141

From	bje@ripco.com
Date	2021-07-06 10:01 +0000
Message-ID	<sc19mh$su7$1@remote6hme0.ripco.com>
In reply to	#137135

Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> wrote:

> And did you actually see that it wouldn't find updates...
> 
> ...or did you just read it on the internet?

He's not correct anyways.

I've had everything (yes, everything) deselected in Spotlight for the past
few years and I still get periodic software update notifications.

Turning everything off only disables the command-spacebar search from doing
anything, which is fine because I never found a practical use for that and
really only need to find file names, which still works fine with the finder
search.

-bruce
bje@ripco.com

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#137142

From	Dr Eberhard Lisse <nospam@lisse.NA>
Date	2021-07-06 12:40 +0200
Message-ID	<ikiq9qFslajU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#137141

OS or Apps?

el

On 06/07/2021 12:01, bje@ripco.com wrote:
> Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> wrote:
> 
>> And did you actually see that it wouldn't find updates...
>>
>> ...or did you just read it on the internet?
> 
> 
> He's not correct anyways.
> 
> I've had everything (yes, everything) deselected in Spotlight for the past
> few years and I still get periodic software update notifications.
> 
> Turning everything off only disables the command-spacebar search from doing
> anything, which is fine because I never found a practical use for that and
> really only need to find file names, which still works fine with the finder
> search.
> 
> -bruce
> bje@ripco.com
> 


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#137143

From	nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date	2021-07-06 07:24 -0400
Message-ID	<060720210724401783%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to	#137141

In article <sc19mh$su7$1@remote6hme0.ripco.com>, <bje@ripco.com> wrote:

> > And did you actually see that it wouldn't find updates...
> > 
> > ...or did you just read it on the internet?
> 
> 
> He's not correct anyways.

no surprise there. he's quite clueless.

> I've had everything (yes, everything) deselected in Spotlight for the past
> few years and I still get periodic software update notifications.

that is normal.

disabling spotlight entirely will cause problems.

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#137145

From	Dr Eberhard Lisse <nospam@lisse.NA>
Date	2021-07-06 16:23 +0200
Message-ID	<ikj7beFlg4U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#137143

Clue thy name is nospam...

el

On 06/07/2021 13:24, nospam wrote:
> In article <sc19mh$su7$1@remote6hme0.ripco.com>, <bje@ripco.com> wrote:
> 
>>> And did you actually see that it wouldn't find updates...
>>>
>>> ...or did you just read it on the internet?
>>
>>
>> He's not correct anyways.
> 
> no surprise there. he's quite clueless.
> 
>> I've had everything (yes, everything) deselected in Spotlight for the past
>> few years and I still get periodic software update notifications.
> 
> that is normal.
> 
> disabling spotlight entirely will cause problems.
> 


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#137146

From	Dr Eberhard Lisse <nospam@lisse.NA>
Date	2021-07-06 16:36 +0200
Message-ID	<ikj838FpdkU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#137145

From

https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/change-spotlight-preferences-mchlp2811/mac

[...]
	 Important: If you exclude certain files and folders you may not be
	 notified when updates become available for some apps.  If you
	 exclude your entire internal disk, you won’t be notified about any
	 updates.
[...]

On 06/07/2021 16:23, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
> Clue thy name is nospam...
> 
> el
> 
> On 06/07/2021 13:24, nospam wrote:
>> In article <sc19mh$su7$1@remote6hme0.ripco.com>, <bje@ripco.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> And did you actually see that it wouldn't find updates...
>>>>
>>>> ...or did you just read it on the internet?
>>>
>>>
>>> He's not correct anyways.
>>
>> no surprise there. he's quite clueless.
>>
>>> I've had everything (yes, everything) deselected in Spotlight for the past
>>> few years and I still get periodic software update notifications.
>>
>> that is normal.
>>
>> disabling spotlight entirely will cause problems.
>>
> 
> 

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#137147

From	bje@ripco.com
Date	2021-07-06 15:44 +0000
Message-ID	<sc1tod$7e0$1@remote6hme0.ripco.com>
In reply to	#137146

Dr Eberhard Lisse <nospam@lisse.na> wrote:

> [...]
>         Important: If you exclude certain files and folders you may not be
>         notified when updates become available for some apps.  If you
>         exclude your entire internal disk, you won?t be notified about any
>         updates.
> [...]

That isn't the same thing you brought up before...

Klicking it off in System Preferences -> Spotlight -> Search Results

What they are talking about in the above is...

System Preferences -> Spotlight -> Privacy

In my Search Results panel I have everything clicked off. But I do not
exclude the boot drive from the Privacy panel.

Thus to answer the earlier question, I can only vouch for apps, when
there is a new version I get the dot in the App Store icon and a "stuck"
notification in the upper right hand side saying "new versions..blah..blah).

No clue about the OS updates, my daily driver is stuck at High Sierra and I
don't remember if they pushed a notification on something that can't be
updated. I don't think so.

-bruce
bje@ripco.com

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#137106

#137107 — Re: How often do you rebuild your macOS Big Sur v11's Spotlight indexes?

#137109 — Re: How often do you rebuild your macOS Big Sur v11's Spotlight indexes?

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