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  Preferred Browsers and why Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> - 2016-09-27 21:16 -0700
    Re: Preferred Browsers and why Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-09-28 05:07 +0000
      Re: Preferred Browsers and why JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-09-28 02:38 -0400
        Re: Preferred Browsers and why Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-09-28 14:40 +0000
          Re: Preferred Browsers and why isw <isw@witzend.com> - 2016-09-28 09:19 -0700
            Re: Preferred Browsers and why android <here@there.was> - 2016-09-28 19:03 +0200
          Re: Preferred Browsers and why befr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich) - 2016-09-29 09:11 +0200
            Re: Preferred Browsers and why android <here@there.was> - 2016-09-29 09:23 +0200
    Re: Preferred Browsers and why stk.usenet@haller-berlin.de (Stefan Haller) - 2016-09-28 12:46 +0200
    Re: Preferred Browsers and why Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-28 16:53 +0000
    Re: Preferred Browsers and why Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-28 19:24 -0400
      Re: Preferred Browsers and why Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-09-29 04:33 +0000
        Re: Preferred Browsers and why android <here@there.was> - 2016-09-29 08:45 +0200
          Re: Preferred Browsers and why Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-09-29 11:26 +0000
        Re: Preferred Browsers and why Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-29 13:18 -0400
          Re: Preferred Browsers and why Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-29 17:28 +0000
            Re: Preferred Browsers and why Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-30 16:09 -0400
              Re: Preferred Browsers and why Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-30 20:11 +0000
                Re: Preferred Browsers and why Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-30 16:31 -0400
        Re: Preferred Browsers and why ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2016-09-29 19:31 +0200
          Re: Preferred Browsers and why nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-29 13:56 -0400
          Re: Preferred Browsers and why Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-09-30 04:52 +0000
          Re: Preferred Browsers and why befr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich) - 2016-09-30 09:01 +0200
          Re: Preferred Browsers and why Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-30 16:10 -0400
    Re: Preferred Browsers and why John Albert <j.albert@snet.net> - 2016-09-28 22:41 -0400
      Re: Preferred Browsers and why ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> - 2016-09-29 19:14 +0200
    Re: Preferred Browsers and why Mallocy <null@example.net> - 2016-09-30 07:22 +0000

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#94847 — Preferred Browsers and why

Firefox has just about run its course for me after this last update.
I've been using Mozilla since the early days of Netscape but it's time
to move on to a grown up browser. I've migrated everything over to
Safari but I'm open to suggestions and why.

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#94853

In message <270920162116377480%otto@bogus.address.com> 
  Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> wrote:
> Firefox has just about run its course for me after this last update.
> I've been using Mozilla since the early days of Netscape but it's time
> to move on to a grown up browser. I've migrated everything over to
> Safari but I'm open to suggestions and why.

Safari is my primary browser. I occasionally use Chrome for something.

-- 
"Reality continues to ruin my life."

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#94854

On 2016-09-28 01:07, Lewis wrote:

> Safari is my primary browser. I occasionally use Chrome for something.


Because Safari is tied to the OS version, it is NOT my browser of
choice. I use it for times where Firefox has problems with a web site.

I would have to fugure out how to get the same ttpe of add-ons on Safari
as I have on Firefox, and too lazy to do that research.

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#94861

In message <57eb6550$0$31331$c3e8da3$dd9697d2@news.astraweb.com> 
  JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> On 2016-09-28 01:07, Lewis wrote:

>> Safari is my primary browser. I occasionally use Chrome for something.

> Because Safari is tied to the OS version, it is NOT my browser of
> choice. I use it for times where Firefox has problems with a web site.

So... all the time then?

> I would have to fugure out how to get the same ttpe of add-ons on Safari
> as I have on Firefox, and too lazy to do that research.

Firefox is a clusterfuck and has been pretty much a disaster since
version 4.


-- 
"There's a light that shines on everything & everyone. And it shines so
bright - brighter even than the sun". That's what Minnie thinks as she
walks to meet her brother, who is nearly two years older on a Saturday
night. He's DJ-ing at some do on the edge of town on the night that
Minnie Timperley died.

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#94864

In article <slrnnunljl.18gu.g.kreme@snow.local>,
 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> In message <57eb6550$0$31331$c3e8da3$dd9697d2@news.astraweb.com> 
>   JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> > On 2016-09-28 01:07, Lewis wrote:
> 
> >> Safari is my primary browser. I occasionally use Chrome for something.
> 
> > Because Safari is tied to the OS version, it is NOT my browser of
> > choice. I use it for times where Firefox has problems with a web site.
> 
> So... all the time then?
> 
> > I would have to fugure out how to get the same ttpe of add-ons on Safari
> > as I have on Firefox, and too lazy to do that research.
> 
> Firefox is a clusterfuck and has been pretty much a disaster since
> version 4.

Anybody using Vivaldi? I've tried it a couple of times when FF failed.

Isaac

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#94868

In article <isw-2CDBB8.09192028092016@news-roam.garlic.com>,
 isw <isw@witzend.com> wrote:

> In article <slrnnunljl.18gu.g.kreme@snow.local>,
>  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> 
> > In message <57eb6550$0$31331$c3e8da3$dd9697d2@news.astraweb.com> 
> >   JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> > > On 2016-09-28 01:07, Lewis wrote:
> > 
> > >> Safari is my primary browser. I occasionally use Chrome for something.
> > 
> > > Because Safari is tied to the OS version, it is NOT my browser of
> > > choice. I use it for times where Firefox has problems with a web site.
> > 
> > So... all the time then?
> > 
> > > I would have to fugure out how to get the same ttpe of add-ons on Safari
> > > as I have on Firefox, and too lazy to do that research.
> > 
> > Firefox is a clusterfuck and has been pretty much a disaster since
> > version 4.
> 
> Anybody using Vivaldi? I've tried it a couple of times when FF failed.
> 
<http://www.opera.com/>
-- 
teleportation kills

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#94923

Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> Firefox is a clusterfuck and has been pretty much a disaster since
> version 4.

Interesting. It is working for me without any problems.
I use it because I just like it and it does everything I want it to.

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#94924

In article <1mubyqt.1kkletzn2rctqN%befr@eaglesoft.de>,
 befr@eaglesoft.de (Bernd Fröhlich) wrote:

> Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> 
> > Firefox is a clusterfuck and has been pretty much a disaster since
> > version 4.
> 
> Interesting. It is working for me without any problems.
> I use it because I just like it and it does everything I want it to.

I've found SeaMonkey to be a good sidekick to Firefox:

<https://download.cdn.mozilla.net/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.9.1/mac/en-US/
>

If ya wanna live on the wild side! (Ignore the coops...)
-- 
teleportation kills

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#94857

Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> wrote:

> Firefox has just about run its course for me after this last update.
> I've been using Mozilla since the early days of Netscape but it's time
> to move on to a grown up browser. I've migrated everything over to
> Safari but I'm open to suggestions and why.

I use Chrome, because it's the only (halfway) workable solution I have
found for using multiple personalities. I need to be able to log into
several websites with both my personal account and my work account, and
using Chrome's "People" feature allows me to do that. I always have two
browser windows open (each with multiple tabs), one for work, the other
for private. The only thing I need to remember is to make sure the right
window is in front before clicking a link in an email. That's a hassle,
but at least it's possible at all. (Oh, and it sucks that the history is
not shared between the windows.)

Without this requirement, I would use Safari instead.


-- 
Stefan Haller
Berlin, Germany
http://www.haller-berlin.de/

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#94867

On 2016-09-28, Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> wrote:
> Firefox has just about run its course for me after this last update.
> I've been using Mozilla since the early days of Netscape but it's time
> to move on to a grown up browser. I've migrated everything over to
> Safari but I'm open to suggestions and why.

Safari has been my browser of choice for many years, because for the
majority of the web sites I visit, it works just fine, and it runs the
browser extensions I want (AdBlock Plus, User CSS, Blur). On the rare
occasion I need to visit a web site that doesn't work well with Safari,
I use Firefox. 

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#94890

On 2016-09-28 00:16, Otto Pylot wrote:
> Firefox has just about run its course for me after this last update.
> I've been using Mozilla since the early days of Netscape but it's time
> to move on to a grown up browser. I've migrated everything over to
> Safari but I'm open to suggestions and why.

I prefer Chrome.  In large part of the bookmark bar being "icons" rather 
than text which seems to be Safari's only mode.  If Safari would do the 
icons, I'd probably jump - Safari is better integrated to the OS X 
experience, to be sure.


-- 
She hummed to herself because she was an unrivaled botcher of lyrics.
   -Nick (Gone Girl), Gillian Flynn.

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#94920

In message <4q2dncrjE-2zzHHKnZ2dnUU7-IGdnZ2d@giganews.com> 
  Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
> On 2016-09-28 00:16, Otto Pylot wrote:
>> Firefox has just about run its course for me after this last update.
>> I've been using Mozilla since the early days of Netscape but it's time
>> to move on to a grown up browser. I've migrated everything over to
>> Safari but I'm open to suggestions and why.

> I prefer Chrome.

Chrome is a pig and uses far more memory and CPU than any of the other
browsers. Running Chrome on my wife's MacBook drops the battery life by
up to 50%.

-- 
A balanced diet is a cookie in each hand.

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#94922

In article <slrnnup6du.1bf7.g.kreme@snow.local>,
 Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> A balanced diet is a cookie in each hand.

Do they have to be of the same kind?
-- 
teleportation kills

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#94925

In message <here-8B12C0.08450629092016@news.individual.net> 
  android <here@there.was> wrote:
> In article <slrnnup6du.1bf7.g.kreme@snow.local>,
>  Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

>> A balanced diet is a cookie in each hand.

> Do they have to be of the same kind?

Of course not. Variety is the spice of life!

-- 
The reaper does not listen to the harvest. --Reaper Man

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#94929

On 2016-09-29 00:33, Lewis wrote:
> In message <4q2dncrjE-2zzHHKnZ2dnUU7-IGdnZ2d@giganews.com>
>   Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>> On 2016-09-28 00:16, Otto Pylot wrote:
>>> Firefox has just about run its course for me after this last update.
>>> I've been using Mozilla since the early days of Netscape but it's time
>>> to move on to a grown up browser. I've migrated everything over to
>>> Safari but I'm open to suggestions and why.
>
>> I prefer Chrome.
>
> Chrome is a pig and uses far more memory and CPU than any of the other
> browsers. Running Chrome on my wife's MacBook drops the battery life by
> up to 50%.

I'm on machines that are plugged in almost always, so that's not that 
much of an issue.  I agree that Chrome does dig at the CPU pretty hard 
for no tangible reason quite often.

That said, the UI of Chrome suits me far better than that of Safari. 
Why Safari doesn't allow icons in lieu of titles for the bookbar is a 
mystery.

-- 
She hummed to herself because she was an unrivaled botcher of lyrics.
   -Nick (Gone Girl), Gillian Flynn.

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#94930

On 2016-09-29, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
> On 2016-09-29 00:33, Lewis wrote:
>> In message <4q2dncrjE-2zzHHKnZ2dnUU7-IGdnZ2d@giganews.com>
>>   Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>>> On 2016-09-28 00:16, Otto Pylot wrote:
>>>> Firefox has just about run its course for me after this last update.
>>>> I've been using Mozilla since the early days of Netscape but it's time
>>>> to move on to a grown up browser. I've migrated everything over to
>>>> Safari but I'm open to suggestions and why.
>>
>>> I prefer Chrome.
>>
>> Chrome is a pig and uses far more memory and CPU than any of the other
>> browsers. Running Chrome on my wife's MacBook drops the battery life by
>> up to 50%.
>
> I'm on machines that are plugged in almost always, so that's not that 
> much of an issue.  I agree that Chrome does dig at the CPU pretty hard 
> for no tangible reason quite often.
>
> That said, the UI of Chrome suits me far better than that of Safari. 
> Why Safari doesn't allow icons in lieu of titles for the bookbar is a 
> mystery.

Meh. That's definitely not enough of a reason for me to switch to some
other web browser that has worse performance and uses more system
resources. It is good to have choices, though.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#95000

On 2016-09-29 13:28, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2016-09-29, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>> On 2016-09-29 00:33, Lewis wrote:
>>> In message <4q2dncrjE-2zzHHKnZ2dnUU7-IGdnZ2d@giganews.com>
>>>   Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>>>> On 2016-09-28 00:16, Otto Pylot wrote:
>>>>> Firefox has just about run its course for me after this last update.
>>>>> I've been using Mozilla since the early days of Netscape but it's time
>>>>> to move on to a grown up browser. I've migrated everything over to
>>>>> Safari but I'm open to suggestions and why.
>>>
>>>> I prefer Chrome.
>>>
>>> Chrome is a pig and uses far more memory and CPU than any of the other
>>> browsers. Running Chrome on my wife's MacBook drops the battery life by
>>> up to 50%.
>>
>> I'm on machines that are plugged in almost always, so that's not that
>> much of an issue.  I agree that Chrome does dig at the CPU pretty hard
>> for no tangible reason quite often.
>>
>> That said, the UI of Chrome suits me far better than that of Safari.
>> Why Safari doesn't allow icons in lieu of titles for the bookbar is a
>> mystery.
>
> Meh. That's definitely not enough of a reason for me to switch to some
> other web browser that has worse performance and uses more system
> resources. It is good to have choices, though.

Snapshot of my bookbars (Chrome and Safari)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ai4o2rmv28h793o/Screen%20Shot%202016-09-30%20at%2015.58.34.png

The top one icons beats the crap out of safar's monochrome letters. 
More links on the bookbar too.

Really don't get Apple forcing monochrome - recall when the sidebar in 
Finder could have coloured BG's ??? all gone.  Harder to quickly locate 
things.


-- 
She hummed to herself because she was an unrivaled botcher of lyrics.
   -Nick (Gone Girl), Gillian Flynn.

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#95002

On 2016-09-30, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
> On 2016-09-29 13:28, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> On 2016-09-29, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>>> On 2016-09-29 00:33, Lewis wrote:
>>>> In message <4q2dncrjE-2zzHHKnZ2dnUU7-IGdnZ2d@giganews.com>
>>>>   Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>>>>> On 2016-09-28 00:16, Otto Pylot wrote:
>>>>>> Firefox has just about run its course for me after this last update.
>>>>>> I've been using Mozilla since the early days of Netscape but it's time
>>>>>> to move on to a grown up browser. I've migrated everything over to
>>>>>> Safari but I'm open to suggestions and why.
>>>>
>>>>> I prefer Chrome.
>>>>
>>>> Chrome is a pig and uses far more memory and CPU than any of the other
>>>> browsers. Running Chrome on my wife's MacBook drops the battery life by
>>>> up to 50%.
>>>
>>> I'm on machines that are plugged in almost always, so that's not that
>>> much of an issue.  I agree that Chrome does dig at the CPU pretty hard
>>> for no tangible reason quite often.
>>>
>>> That said, the UI of Chrome suits me far better than that of Safari.
>>> Why Safari doesn't allow icons in lieu of titles for the bookbar is a
>>> mystery.
>>
>> Meh. That's definitely not enough of a reason for me to switch to some
>> other web browser that has worse performance and uses more system
>> resources. It is good to have choices, though.
>
> Snapshot of my bookbars (Chrome and Safari)
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ai4o2rmv28h793o/Screen%20Shot%202016-09-30%20at%2015.58.34.png

Like I said: Meh.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#95004

On 2016-09-30 16:11, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2016-09-30, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>> On 2016-09-29 13:28, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>> On 2016-09-29, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>>>> On 2016-09-29 00:33, Lewis wrote:
>>>>> In message <4q2dncrjE-2zzHHKnZ2dnUU7-IGdnZ2d@giganews.com>
>>>>>   Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>>>>>> On 2016-09-28 00:16, Otto Pylot wrote:
>>>>>>> Firefox has just about run its course for me after this last update.
>>>>>>> I've been using Mozilla since the early days of Netscape but it's time
>>>>>>> to move on to a grown up browser. I've migrated everything over to
>>>>>>> Safari but I'm open to suggestions and why.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I prefer Chrome.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chrome is a pig and uses far more memory and CPU than any of the other
>>>>> browsers. Running Chrome on my wife's MacBook drops the battery life by
>>>>> up to 50%.
>>>>
>>>> I'm on machines that are plugged in almost always, so that's not that
>>>> much of an issue.  I agree that Chrome does dig at the CPU pretty hard
>>>> for no tangible reason quite often.
>>>>
>>>> That said, the UI of Chrome suits me far better than that of Safari.
>>>> Why Safari doesn't allow icons in lieu of titles for the bookbar is a
>>>> mystery.
>>>
>>> Meh. That's definitely not enough of a reason for me to switch to some
>>> other web browser that has worse performance and uses more system
>>> resources. It is good to have choices, though.
>>
>> Snapshot of my bookbars (Chrome and Safari)
>>
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ai4o2rmv28h793o/Screen%20Shot%202016-09-30%20at%2015.58.34.png
>
> Like I said: Meh.

For you.  For me it's important.

-- 
She hummed to herself because she was an unrivaled botcher of lyrics.
   -Nick (Gone Girl), Gillian Flynn.

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#94931

Lewis wrote:
> Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>> I prefer Chrome.
>
> Chrome is a pig and uses far more memory and CPU than any of the other
> browsers. Running Chrome on my wife's MacBook drops the battery life by
> up to 50%.

Apart from that, Chrome is even one of the most insecure and 
untrustworthey browsers at all - a real sky. *Anything* you write, 
search and/or visit is reported /directly/ to Google!

Chrome is excommunicated here in the house on any computer - and if 
anyone comes around with his/her laptop/tablet and want to connect, they 
are also excommunicated if Chrome is installed.

Cheers, Erik Richard

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NisusWriter - The Future In Multilingual Text Processing - www.nisus.com
Openoffice.org - The Modern Productivity Solution - www.openoffice.org
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