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  New Macs coming Octiber 27th. JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-10-18 18:27 -0400
    Re: New Macs coming Octiber 27th. Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-10-19 13:36 +1300
    Re: New Macs coming Octiber 27th. android <here@there.was> - 2016-10-19 07:07 +0200
    Re: New Macs coming Octiber 27th. Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-10-19 14:27 -0400
      Re: New Macs coming Octiber 27th. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-20 04:39 +0000
    Re: New Macs coming Octiber 27th. nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2016-10-19 14:23 -0600
      Re: New Macs coming Octiber 27th. "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-19 18:11 -0500
      Re: New Macs coming Octiber 27th. Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-10-20 14:05 +1300
      Re: New Macs coming Octiber 27th. Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-10-21 20:37 -0400
        Re: New Macs coming Octiber 27th. JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-10-23 02:35 -0400
          Re: New Macs coming Octiber 27th. Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-10-24 09:48 +1300
            Re: New Macs coming Octiber 27th. JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-10-23 17:12 -0400
              Re: New Macs coming Octiber 27th. Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-10-24 19:42 +1300
                Re: New Macs coming Octiber 27th. Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-10-25 08:59 +1300
                  Re: New Macs coming Octiber 27th. JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-10-26 12:47 -0400
                    Re: New Macs coming Octiber 27th. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-26 12:51 -0400
                    Re: New Macs coming Octiber 27th. "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-26 14:25 -0500
                      Re: New Macs coming Octiber 27th. JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-10-26 15:34 -0400
                        Re: New Macs coming Octiber 27th. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-10-26 16:02 -0400
                        Re: New Macs coming Octiber 27th. Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-10-27 10:10 +1300
                          Re: New Macs coming Octiber 27th. JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-10-26 17:14 -0400
                            Re: New Macs coming Octiber 27th. Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-10-26 21:25 +0000
                            Re: New Macs coming Octiber 27th. Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-10-27 14:17 +1300
                      Re: New Macs coming Octiber 27th. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-27 03:27 +0000
                        Re: New Macs coming Octiber 27th. "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-27 00:46 -0500
                          Re: New Macs coming Octiber 27th. Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-27 14:00 +0000
                          Re: New Macs coming Octiber 27th. Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-10-27 10:19 -0400
    Re: New Macs coming Octiber 27th. Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2016-10-20 09:27 +1300

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#95755 — New Macs coming Octiber 27th.

from
> http://mobilesyrup.com/2016/10/18/apple-to-reportedly-launch-new-macs-on-october-27th/
Apple to reportedly launch new Macs on October 27th

Macbook Air
iMacs
MacBookPro (thinner and flatter keyboard)

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#95761

In article <5806a1de$0$4556$c3e8da3$b280bf18@news.astraweb.com>, JF
Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> 
> Re: New Macs coming Octiber 27th

You're going to have a LONG wait until "Octiber" arrives.  ;-)



> from
> http://mobilesyrup.com/2016/10/18/apple-to-reportedly-launch-new-macs-on-october-27th/
> Apple to reportedly launch new Macs on October 27th
> 
> Macbook Air
> iMacs
> MacBookPro (thinner and flatter keyboard)

It's possible, though not likely, that laptops and iMacs will be
released at the same time. More likely it'll be the laptops in October
and the iMacs in November ... if anything is released at all.

There's no need for a thinner MacBook Pro. It's ridiculous Ive's
constant push for everything to be every thinner.  :-(

The MacBook Air is pretty much pointless now since the release of the
MacBook (non-Pro).

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#95769

In article <5806a1de$0$4556$c3e8da3$b280bf18@news.astraweb.com>,
 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> from
> > http://mobilesyrup.com/2016/10/18/apple-to-reportedly-launch-new-macs-on-oct
> > ober-27th/
> Apple to reportedly launch new Macs on October 27th
> 
> Macbook Air
> iMacs
> MacBookPro (thinner and flatter keyboard)

So no new Mac Pro?
-- 
teleportation kills

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#95800

JF Mezei:

> ...
> MacBookPro (thinner and flatter keyboard)

Just what I need, a thinner MBP. Remove the ports, the display, the
internals, and sell a beautifully machined aluminum slab with the Apple
logo. It'll be so light that I can carry it everywhere and impress all
the kids.

-- 
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm

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#95826

In message <191020161427268971%star@sky.net> 
  Davoud <star@sky.net> wrote:
> JF Mezei:

>> ...
>> MacBookPro (thinner and flatter keyboard)

> Just what I need, a thinner MBP. Remove the ports, the display, the
> internals, and sell a beautifully machined aluminum slab with the Apple
> logo. It'll be so light that I can carry it everywhere and impress all
> the kids.

A new MBP with 4 USB-C ports that is lighter than the current MPB would
be very welcome in this house.


-- 
I hear hurricanes a-blowing, I know the end is coming soon. I fear
rivers over-flowing. I hear the voice of rage and ruin.

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#95806

JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> MacBookPro (thinner and flatter keyboard)

Introducing the new MacBook Katana. So thin it's a lethal weapon. 

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#95816

On 10-19-2016 15:23, Neill Massello wrote:
> JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>
>> MacBookPro (thinner and flatter keyboard)
>
> Introducing the new MacBook Katana. So thin it's a lethal weapon.
>

Especially when you get irritated at what was left out to make it so 
thin and frisbee it out the window like Odd Job.

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#95824

In article <1mvddyi.q47gdop5gul8N%nmassello@yahoo.com>, Neill Massello
<nmassello@yahoo.com> wrote:
> JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> > 
> > MacBookPro (thinner and flatter keyboard)
> 
> Introducing the new MacBook Katana. So thin it's a lethal weapon. 

They actually introduced the new MacBook Pro two weeks ago, but it was
so thin nobody could see it.  ;-)

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#95892

Neill Massello:
> Introducing the new MacBook Katana. So thin it's a lethal weapon. 

Coincidence for you. "katana" is the feminine form of the Hebrew
adjective "small."

-- 
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm

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#95947

BTW, can't remember where I read it yesterday, but latest rumour is the
announcement on the 27th covers only laptops, not iMacs, MacPro or Mini.

(the later 2 , we know not to expect, but there were expectations of iMacs).

One explanation: new Intel chips for deskops not ready till January.

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#95959

In article <580c5a21$0$18142$c3e8da3$a9097924@news.astraweb.com>, JF
Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> BTW, can't remember where I read it yesterday, but latest rumour is the
> announcement on the 27th covers only laptops, not iMacs, MacPro or Mini.

It's all over the usual rumor / news websites: MacRumors, AppleInsider,
etc.


> (the later 2 , we know not to expect, but there were expectations of iMacs).

Nope. There were rumors by fools who don't know how Apple releases
their new models. The expectations of people with brains was that this
would almost certainly be laptops only, with iMacs possibly next month,
but ...



> One explanation: new Intel chips for deskops not ready till January.

The rumours for the new iMac have very few changes. About the only
thing that really changes is AMD graphics in some models and possibly a
slight speed-bump. If a speed-bumped iMac does get released before
Christmas, there will likely be a proper new model released in about
April / May next year.

Main explanation is that Apple simply doesn't (usually) release
multiple different models at the same time. They usually separate
desktop, laptop, and iOS device releases, and software separate again
with the WWDC returning to a software event. This is done for various
logistical reasons (not the least of which is avoiding having huge
piles of different new models arriving on store doorsteps at the same
time)

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#95960

On 2016-10-23 16:48, Your Name wrote:

> Main explanation is that Apple simply doesn't (usually) release
> multiple different models at the same time. 

But ! But ! But ! Christmas season ... !

I am guessing chip releaase dates have more to do with computer releases
than marketing consideration of announcing new products together.

Speed bumps may not even be announced. Just posted on websites for new
sales.

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#95978

In article <580d27a5$0$43756$c3e8da3$5e5e430d@news.astraweb.com>, JF
Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> On 2016-10-23 16:48, Your Name wrote:
> > 
> > Main explanation is that Apple simply doesn't (usually) release
> > multiple different models at the same time. 
> 
> But ! But ! But ! Christmas season ... !

There's still November to go.



> I am guessing chip releaase dates have more to do with computer releases
> than marketing consideration of announcing new products together.
> 
> Speed bumps may not even be announced. Just posted on websites for new
> sales.

If the rumour of new AMD graphics is true, then a speed-bumped iMac
could get an small announcement event, especially if the rumoured new
separate display is released too (as a second display for the iMac for
example).

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#95981

In article <241020161942476660%YourName@YourISP.com>, Your Name
<YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

> In article <580d27a5$0$43756$c3e8da3$5e5e430d@news.astraweb.com>, JF
> Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> > On 2016-10-23 16:48, Your Name wrote:
> > > 
> > > Main explanation is that Apple simply doesn't (usually) release
> > > multiple different models at the same time. 
> > 
> > But ! But ! But ! Christmas season ... !
> 
> There's still November to go.
> 
> 
> 
> > I am guessing chip releaase dates have more to do with computer releases
> > than marketing consideration of announcing new products together.
> > 
> > Speed bumps may not even be announced. Just posted on websites for new
> > sales.
> 
> If the rumour of new AMD graphics is true, then a speed-bumped iMac
> could get an small announcement event, especially if the rumoured new
> separate display is released too (as a second display for the iMac for
> example).

More "proof" from MacRumors.com that updated iMac and Mac Pro models
are NOT part of this week's event ...


    Apple Registers Three New Macs in Eurasia Ahead 
    of Thursday's 'Hello Again' Event 
    ----------------------------------------------- 
    Just three days before Apple's "Hello Again" event,  
    where it is widely expected to announce new Macs,  
    French website Consomac has discovered a new  
    Russian-language regulatory filing, in the Eurasian  
    Economic Commission database, that points towards  
    at least three new models running macOS Sierra  
    launching soon.
 
    The three new Macs, identified only with model  
    numbers A1706, A1707, A1708, are likely to be new  
    13-inch and 15-inch MacBook Pros alongside a new  
    13-inch MacBook, which could be a refreshed Air  
    model, based on previous reports. However, adding  
    confusion to the mix is the consecutive sequence  
    of the model numbers.
 
    The filing, published today, satisfies Russia's  
    requirement for companies to register all products  
    containing encryption and/or cryptographic tools.
 
    Over the weekend, KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi  
    Kuo said he believes the highlight of Apple's event  
    on Thursday will be a redesigned MacBook Pro in  
    both 13-inch and 15-inch sizes, adopting an OLED  
    touch bar and Touch ID sensor, USB-C with  
    Thunderbolt 3, and the same butterfly keyboard  
    design introduced on the MacBook in 2015.
 
    The all-new MacBook Pro is also expected to have  
    faster Intel Skylake processors and faster graphics,  
    possibly including the option of AMD "Polaris"  
    graphics on higher-end models. Kuo said Apple will  
    offer a new option of 2TB SSD storage, while it or  
    a third-party supplier will release a MagSafe-like  
    USB-C charging adapter.
 
    The new 13-inch MacBook, meanwhile, is likely to be  
    a refreshed MacBook Air, which would align with  
    other rumors claiming that only the 13-inch MacBook  
    Air will be seeing an update with new USB-C ports.  
    However, there is an outside chance the model could  
    be a slightly larger version of the current 12-inch  
    MacBook.
 
    The loosely translated filing refers to the Macs as  
    "portable personal computers," effectively ruling  
    out the iMac and Mac Pro.




The three consecutive model numbers may simply be different
configurations of MacBook Pro models, so the MacBook / MacBook Air
could also not be making an appearance / announcement at the event ...
unless, potentially, it isn't actually shipping until a little later.

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#96006

Be ready for... wait for it....  ESCAPEGATE

Yep, appears the new MacBookPro will be without the top rows, and that
includes the disapearance of the escape key.


Of course, it all depends on how Apple does it. If the "touch pad" still
generates the same key event as the current leftmost key, then this is a
no brainer as nothing would change except what appears on the key will
be software configurable.

Introducing the iEscape key :-)
https://twitter.com/bendavenport/status/791118554695249920

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#96007

In article <5810de13$0$47951$c3e8da3$aae71a0a@news.astraweb.com>, JF
Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> Be ready for... wait for it....  ESCAPEGATE
> 
> Yep, appears the new MacBookPro will be without the top rows, and that
> includes the disapearance of the escape key.

no it doesn't.

the bar can be anything. 

in normal use, it's probably shows an escape key, brightness & volume
buttons (or optionally fkeys).

presumably, apps will be able to configure it specific to the app.

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#96017

On 10-26-2016 11:47, JF Mezei wrote:
> Yep, appears the new MacBookPro will be without the top rows, and that
> includes the disapearance of the escape key.

I find it hard to believe that there will no longer be easy ways to 
adjust volume, eject disks, pause/play music, adjust brightness,
launch that (stupid, IMHO) iPad-like app launcher.

But I suspect Ctrl-I will still work.

Although I notice that Ctrl-G no longer works in Terminal.

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#96018

On 2016-10-26 15:25, Happy.Hobo wrote:

> I find it hard to believe that there will no longer be easy ways to 
> adjust volume, eject disks, pause/play music, adjust brightness,
> launch that (stupid, IMHO) iPad-like app launcher.

I assume that by default, the new "software" top row will emulate
current keyboard top row with same keycap logos and functionality.

The big question is whether any software will really bother with the
extra code to load new "key caps" when only a percentage of users will
have machines that can make use of it.

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#96019

In article <58110550$0$65191$b1db1813$15bdbe48@news.astraweb.com>, JF
Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> 
> > I find it hard to believe that there will no longer be easy ways to 
> > adjust volume, eject disks, pause/play music, adjust brightness,
> > launch that (stupid, IMHO) iPad-like app launcher.
> 
> I assume that by default, the new "software" top row will emulate
> current keyboard top row with same keycap logos and functionality.

obviously.

> The big question is whether any software will really bother with the
> extra code to load new "key caps" when only a percentage of users will
> have machines that can make use of it.

some apps will, giving it an edge over its competitors.

apple might even highlight apps that support it, which is free
marketing.

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#96020

In article <58110550$0$65191$b1db1813$15bdbe48@news.astraweb.com>, JF
Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> On 2016-10-26 15:25, Happy.Hobo wrote:
> 
> > I find it hard to believe that there will no longer be easy ways to 
> > adjust volume, eject disks, pause/play music, adjust brightness,
> > launch that (stupid, IMHO) iPad-like app launcher.
> 
> I assume that by default, the new "software" top row will emulate
> current keyboard top row with same keycap logos and functionality.
> 
> The big question is whether any software will really bother with the
> extra code to load new "key caps" when only a percentage of users will
> have machines that can make use of it.

There are (supposedly) images of it hidden in Apple Pay - both as a
blank:
<http://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2016/10/macbook_pro_magic_mr.jpg>
and in use:
<http://cdn.macrumors.com/article-new/2016/10/macbook_pro_touch_id.mr_.j
pg>

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