Path: csiph.com!au2pb.net!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder01.blueworldhosting.com!peer01.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2015 17:53:11 -0500 Subject: Re: new iMac Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system References: <03fe9b64-f66c-4fe1-bc1f-a581dfb70fe3@googlegroups.com> <0PWdnQqxpe1gF3TInZ2dnUU7-VWdnZ2d@giganews.com> <040920151845128406%invid@loclanet.com> From: Alan Browne Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2015 18:53:11 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <040920151845128406%invid@loclanet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Lines: 23 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-snUvMz2+ibUD0bOe0vbaUUg9OACS7nwLtHS8UqxYXEQZZbp76pReX7n87aaEfV2JcsSNVr37ZQWz0bU!4DixKMOcxetcDoDBBUs888Ed4VSgZ/ZZGiLFqZZk6o3zDqwbt/gxLAwRwxVSMS+0zsyARVzmgA== X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 2290 X-Received-Bytes: 2402 X-Received-Body-CRC: 3937633287 Xref: csiph.com comp.sys.mac.system:79537 On 2015-09-04 18:45, Invid Fan wrote: > In article <0PWdnQqxpe1gF3TInZ2dnUU7-VWdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne > wrote: > >> On 2015-09-04 05:42, Frank wrote: >>> do new iMacs ship with user guide or manual? >> >> Waste of paper. >> >> There is a get going guide. OTOH, turn it on, enter (or not) the info >> it asks for and get whatever you need from the Apple site or many others. > > The only problem is if you're having trouble getting online. Having > most of the Help info actually on the computer instead of online would > be useful. There's no reason iBooks couldn't come with the correct > manual pre-installed. Can't disagree with you. OTOH, in a few decades of setting up new computers I've never needed a guide in getting a computer online (Windows, Mac, Linux, Solaris) within minutes of installing the basic OS. That includes a very nasty period for Windows+Modems and ISP's that had no notion that users might need some guidance.