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Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution

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On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 19:29:34 +0100, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <op.yzgyt4m2js98qf@red.lan>, James Wilkinson Sword
> <imvalid@somewear.com> wrote:
>
>> >> >> >> >> > As for making prints look just like those from a 35mm camera,
>> that
>> >> >> >> >> > sort of degradation is easily done with software.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> I take it you didn't have a professional SLR 35mm camera.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > film is worse than digital in every metric.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > digital can be downgraded to look like film if the user wants, but
>> >> >> >> > that
>> >> >> >> > would be stupid if quality is the goal.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Decent film is as good as digital.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > definitely not.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> I mean professional quality low ASA
>> >> >> >> film on a camera with a good lens.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > doesn't matter.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Maybe not nowadays, digital improves all the time.
>> >> >
>> >> > digital has been better than film for well over a decade.
>> >>
>> >> I'd have rated a professional film camera at about 6MP.
>> >
>> > 6 mp cameras were common over a decade ago.
>>
>> Depends how much you pay.  Over a decade ago a 6MP digital would cost many
>> many times more than a film camera.
>
> nonsense,

I paid £3000 for my 6MP digital Canon about then.

> and price isn't the issue anyway.

What are you, a Lord?

>> Mind you the running costs were
>> significantly lower.
>
> which must be taken into account.

Oh now you care about price.

>> > it also depends on the film too.
>>
>> Agreed.  400ASA sucked.
>
> no it didn't.

Too grainy.  I used 100ASA.

>> >> Don't ever get a Fuji digital camera, they LIE about the MP.
>> >
>> > no they don't.
>> >
>> > the only company that lies about the number of megapixels is sigma.
>> >
>> >> Canon gives you what it says on the tin.
>> >
>> > as does nikon, sony and everyone else.
>> >
>> > the only exception is sigma.
>>
>> Only used their lenses, which are excellent.
>
> they aren't as good as first party lenses.

They seem perfect to me.  Maybe not good enough on a higher MP camera?  I only used Sigma on a 6MP DSLR.  Very fast autofocus, perfectly sharp across the whole image, used it heavily and it never gave in, even when dropped a few times.

>> It would appear from an example given elsewhere that modern Fujis don't lie.
>
> none do.
>
>> Mine certainly does.  It is only capable of half of what it says on the tin.
>> At least it's predecessor admitted it interpolated.
>
> it didn't.

I've already proved it did.

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Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-29 19:26 +0100
  Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-29 14:29 -0400
    Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-29 19:34 +0100
      Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-29 14:43 -0400
        Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-29 20:01 +0100
          Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-29 15:15 -0400
            Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-29 20:21 +0100
        Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-29 20:01 +0100

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