Path: csiph.com!3.us.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!news.alt.net From: "James Wilkinson Sword" Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,sci.physics,alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.sys.mac.system,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.cellular-phone-tech Subject: Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 21:01:43 +0100 Organization: ~ Lines: 62 Message-ID: References: <150420171210307895%nospam@nospam.invalid> <260420171829143596%nospam@nospam.invalid> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Opera Mail/1.0 (Win32) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.advocacy:411799 sci.physics:630929 alt.privacy.anon-server:59240 comp.sys.mac.system:105664 alt.comp.os.windows-10:41087 alt.cellular-phone-tech:1655 On Thu, 27 Apr 2017 19:58:34 +0100, Snit wrote: > On 4/27/17, 11:33 AM, in article op.yzc9uitnjs98qf@red.lan, "James Wilkinson > Sword" wrote: > > ... >>> So you have no example of Macs being twice the price of comparable Dells, >>> not any price comparisons made by reputable sources to back such a claim. >>> >>> OK. >> >> You find me an Apple computer for sale with actual specs so I know what >> motherboard and processor and memory and so forth are in it, the exact models, >> then I'll do a comparison. Without that info a comparison is not possible. > > Either you know how to find those specs yourself or you lied when you said > you already made such a comparison. It's written in the next line. Don't interrupt. >> When I did the comparison at my work, I most likely used the detailed specs >> given by our local Apple supplier. > > You can get the specs however you want. Meanwhile, though admittedly > outdated, I am happy to point to comparisons made by outside sources: The specs should be on the Apple webpage. Simply not good enough. > I'm still waiting for a pricelist with proper specs from you. > The idea that Macs are more considerably expensive than comparable machines > does not fit the data. With that said, it *is* true you have fewer options > on what to add or not add: if you, for example, do not want both wireless > and wired network connections, or do not want he IR input, etc. you cannot > opt out. So in that way you might be able to get a system that meets the > specs YOU want which is considerably cheaper than what Apple offers. > > There is still the question as to the tasks you want to use the machine for. > Which will serve you better and why? And what resources do you have to get > it -- financial and older software, etc. > > Even just personal preference comes into play... so use what you like that > fits your needs. I personally use macOS, Windows, and Linux. > > ... >>> With which Macs? If you let me know I will likely be able to give you the >>> CPU specs you want. >> >> Pick anything you like, something mid range if you want so we're not dealing >> with budget stuff or extreme gaming stuff where prices can vary a lot. I >> cetainly can't be bothered navigating their godawful website. It's full of >> adverts with no information. > > So you have no specific Mac you cannot find the CPU specs you want on it. > OK. I don't mind what Mac it is, I just want to compare like with like to see if you're correct about them no longer being double the price. For that I need to know exactly what CPU, SSD, RAM, etc is in it so I can compare it to a PC supplier. Apple hide this information on their website. -- Peter is now listening to "Guo Yi & Guo Yue - Mongolian Horse"