Path: csiph.com!feeder.erje.net!2.us.feeder.erje.net!news.alt.net From: "James Wilkinson Sword" Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,sci.physics,alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.sys.mac.system,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.cellular-phone-tech Subject: Re: Smokers are smarter, I say. Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 20:57:38 +0100 Organization: ~ Lines: 61 Message-ID: References: <150420171210307895%nospam@nospam.invalid> <260420171829143596%nospam@nospam.invalid> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Opera Mail/1.0 (Win32) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.advocacy:411797 sci.physics:630927 alt.privacy.anon-server:59239 comp.sys.mac.system:105663 alt.comp.os.windows-10:41086 alt.cellular-phone-tech:1654 On Thu, 27 Apr 2017 19:52:40 +0100, Snit wrote: > On 4/27/17, 11:31 AM, in article op.yzc9p9dxjs98qf@red.lan, "James Wilkinson > Sword" wrote: > > ... >>>>> It is oh so hard to find! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Also MacTracker has lots of info. >>>> >>>> That gives the Ghz, not the model of i5. There are many many i5s. >>> >>> Let's see: >>> >>> The first one is listed as a Dual Core i5 at 1.6 GHz using HD Graphics 6000. >>> As far as I know that limits it to ONLY the Core i5-5250U. >>> >>> The second one is listed as a Quad Core i5 at 2.8 GHz using Intel Iris Pro >>> Graphics 6200. As far as I know that limits it to ONLY the Core i5-5575R. >>> >>> The third one is listed as a Quad Core i5 at 3.1 GHz using Intel Iris Pro >>> Graphics 6200. This does leave open the Core i5-5675C and the Core i5-5675R, >>> but their primary difference is the socket. The other two use BGA so I think >>> it is same to assume Apple is using the Core i5-5675R. >>> >>> Apple gives all the actual specs but does not list the specific model... but >> >>> it is not hard to find if, for some unknown reason, it actually matters to >>> you to know not just what the computer you are getting has in it but what >>> name Intel has designated it. >> >> I have an i5-3570K in my 3 year old desktop. > > Mazel tov! > >> I know that the i5 range goes from about half that speed to about double that >> speed. Not giving the exact model of the i5 in the Imac specs is absurd. > > Given that they tell you the specs most would want, what is your concern? Do > you just want to know the number for your own level of comfort? So I know how powerful it is. It could be twice as fast as my desktop, or half as fast. That's a big range! It's like saying "this car has a 2 litre engine" - not enough information to tell how fast it is. >> Are Apple doing what they usually do and dumbing things down for their low >> intelligence market? Or perhaps they just like conning people by leaving >> things out and just writing he GHz. > > They give more than that, as I discuss, above. In fact, you have not > mentioned a spec they leave out that you care about, nor have you shown any > price comparison to back your claim of twice the price. > > Bottom line: you are looking for things to whine about and making things up > when you cannot find real issues. Fine. As long as we have that > understanding of what your game is I am likely to play along for a bit more. No, you're accepting a vague processor speed, then looking up a list of i5s to find which one it probably is. Apple need to simply state what processor is in it. Every single other computer manufacturer does so. I would guess they do it to avoid comparisons being possible. -- If you had to identify, in one word, the reason why the human race has not achieved, and never will achieve, its full potential, that word would be "meetings."