Path: csiph.com!xmission!news.alt.net From: "James Wilkinson Sword" Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.cellular-phone-tech Subject: Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2017 20:31:05 +0100 Organization: ~ Lines: 96 Message-ID: References: <7699542da7f01f1304183cf9c297a669@dizum.com> <2017040913334010404-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom> <2017041013030527968-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom> <2017041019315116855-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom> <100420172246189074%nospam@nospam.invalid> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Opera Mail/1.0 (Win32) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.advocacy:408424 comp.sys.mac.system:104326 alt.comp.os.windows-10:39341 alt.cellular-phone-tech:883 On Fri, 14 Apr 2017 20:01:50 +0100, Snit wrote: > On 4/14/17, 11:33 AM, in article op.yyo65rapjs98qf@red.lan, "James Wilkinson > Sword" wrote: > >> On Fri, 14 Apr 2017 19:13:17 +0100, Snit wrote: >> >>> On 4/14/17, 11:01 AM, in article op.yyo5o4pmjs98qf@red.lan, "James Wilkinson >>> Sword" wrote: >>> >>>> On Fri, 14 Apr 2017 18:42:18 +0100, Snit >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 4/14/17, 10:23 AM, in article op.yyo3xahnjs98qf@red.lan, "James >>>>> Wilkinson >>>>> Sword" wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, 14 Apr 2017 18:11:39 +0100, Snit >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 4/14/17, 8:02 AM, in article op.yyoxdqeljs98qf@red.lan, "James >>>>>>> Wilkinson >>>>>>> Sword" wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 21:26:16 +0100, Mark Lloyd wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 04/10/2017 09:48 PM, Snit wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [snip] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> My kids, 9 and 11, have at least parts of that memorized. More than I >>>>>>>>>> do. >>>>>>>>>> :) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> When I was 9, many kids were concerned about Nixon becoming president. >>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>> was more interested in Adenine, Guanine, Cytosine, Thymine. THAT is >>>>>>>>> what >>>>>>>>> I was thinking of when i got to school early >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've never heard of a 9 year old giving a shit about politics. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My 9 year old watched at least part of most of the debates and has done a >>>>>>> fail amount of research on Trump, Clinton, Sanders, and others. I have >>>>>>> little doubt she knows more than many of the "adults" you see on Usenet. >>>>>>> :) >>>>>> >>>>>> One of two things wrong there: >>>>>> 1) She should be allowed to vote if she knows that much. >>>>> >>>>> I would not go quite that far (though many of age I think are not informed >>>>> enough to give a "good" vote... but I would not deny it to them because of >>>>> the can of worms that opens!) >>>>> >>>>>> 2) What's the point in her learning that if she can't vote? >>>>> >>>>> She is interested... and wants to know about her country. There are >>>>> certainly LARGE holes in her knowledge when compared to even the average 18 >>>>> year old (or what I would hope an 18 year old would know on even a base >>>>> level) but she enjoys reading biographies of scientists, politicians, etc. >>>>> as well as just books on what life was like in the past or what it is like >>>>> in other places. These are books at her grade level or maybe a bit above, >>>>> but I am not going to suggest she is a child prodigy and is preparing her >>>>> doctoral dissertation as she reads these! Nor are these the only things she >>>>> reads... she is really into a couple of fantasy series as well... right now >>>>> more into those than the other. That comes some from her getting interested >>>>> in what her older sister likes, but also her own tastes. And I am fine with >>>>> that, too. >>>>> >>>>> My eleven year old cares about politics as much as one would expect most >>>>> eleven year olds too... not much at all (though she and her friends have >>>>> surprised me with some of their discussions how they handle differences in >>>>> political views). But she is the one who is FAR more into the fantasy >>>>> novels >>>>> and graphic novels of various sorts. I am completely fine with that, too... >>>>> not pushing either of them to get "into" politics. As is common, they have >>>>> adopted many of the views of their parents (my wife and I) but they also >>>>> have places they disagree... and that is fine, too. >>>> >>>> I agree with you that she probably knows more than most adults, so she >>>> should >>>> get to vote, as should every child. >>> >>> Well, she is taxed... maybe kids should not be. :) >> >> She pays tax?! > > Well, not income taxes (shhhh... she never reports a cent of the money she > makes from her lemonade stands nor her selling of anything else) but she > does get an allowance and buys things with it. And they have her pay taxes > even though she does not vote. Ah, sales tax. -- It is OK to let your mind go blank, but please turn off the sound.