Path: csiph.com!xmission!news.alt.net From: "James Wilkinson Sword" Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.cellular-phone-tech Subject: Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2017 19:33:17 +0100 Organization: ~ Lines: 76 Message-ID: References: <7699542da7f01f1304183cf9c297a669@dizum.com> <2gfbectffppvdsm05hilbie7bjfh48qbsr@4ax.com> <2017040913334010404-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom> <2017041013030527968-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom> <2017041019315116855-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom> <100420172246189074%nospam@nospam.invalid> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Opera Mail/1.0 (Win32) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.advocacy:408415 comp.sys.mac.system:104318 alt.comp.os.windows-10:39328 alt.cellular-phone-tech:875 On Fri, 14 Apr 2017 19:13:17 +0100, Snit wrote: > On 4/14/17, 11:01 AM, in article op.yyo5o4pmjs98qf@red.lan, "James Wilkinson > Sword" wrote: > >> On Fri, 14 Apr 2017 18:42:18 +0100, Snit wrote: >> >>> On 4/14/17, 10:23 AM, in article op.yyo3xahnjs98qf@red.lan, "James Wilkinson >>> Sword" wrote: >>> >>>> On Fri, 14 Apr 2017 18:11:39 +0100, Snit >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 4/14/17, 8:02 AM, in article op.yyoxdqeljs98qf@red.lan, "James Wilkinson >>>>> Sword" wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 21:26:16 +0100, Mark Lloyd wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 04/10/2017 09:48 PM, Snit wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [snip] >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My kids, 9 and 11, have at least parts of that memorized. More than I >>>>>>>> do. >>>>>>>> :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When I was 9, many kids were concerned about Nixon becoming president. I >>>>>>> was more interested in Adenine, Guanine, Cytosine, Thymine. THAT is what >>>>>>> I was thinking of when i got to school early >>>>>> >>>>>> I've never heard of a 9 year old giving a shit about politics. >>>>> >>>>> My 9 year old watched at least part of most of the debates and has done a >>>>> fail amount of research on Trump, Clinton, Sanders, and others. I have >>>>> little doubt she knows more than many of the "adults" you see on Usenet. :) >>>> >>>> One of two things wrong there: >>>> 1) She should be allowed to vote if she knows that much. >>> >>> I would not go quite that far (though many of age I think are not informed >>> enough to give a "good" vote... but I would not deny it to them because of >>> the can of worms that opens!) >>> >>>> 2) What's the point in her learning that if she can't vote? >>> >>> She is interested... and wants to know about her country. There are >>> certainly LARGE holes in her knowledge when compared to even the average 18 >>> year old (or what I would hope an 18 year old would know on even a base >>> level) but she enjoys reading biographies of scientists, politicians, etc. >>> as well as just books on what life was like in the past or what it is like >>> in other places. These are books at her grade level or maybe a bit above, >>> but I am not going to suggest she is a child prodigy and is preparing her >>> doctoral dissertation as she reads these! Nor are these the only things she >>> reads... she is really into a couple of fantasy series as well... right now >>> more into those than the other. That comes some from her getting interested >>> in what her older sister likes, but also her own tastes. And I am fine with >>> that, too. >>> >>> My eleven year old cares about politics as much as one would expect most >>> eleven year olds too... not much at all (though she and her friends have >>> surprised me with some of their discussions how they handle differences in >>> political views). But she is the one who is FAR more into the fantasy novels >>> and graphic novels of various sorts. I am completely fine with that, too... >>> not pushing either of them to get "into" politics. As is common, they have >>> adopted many of the views of their parents (my wife and I) but they also >>> have places they disagree... and that is fine, too. >> >> I agree with you that she probably knows more than most adults, so she should >> get to vote, as should every child. > > Well, she is taxed... maybe kids should not be. :) She pays tax?! -- I saw a bank that said 24 hour banking, but I didn't have that much time. -- Steve Wright