Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Arno Welzel Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.android Subject: Re: European Commission sober! iMessage is not to be designated a "core platform service". Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2024 20:18:51 +0100 Lines: 38 Message-ID: References: <%QpzN.359284$xHn7.298297@fx14.iad> <4QNCN.100133$GX69.74652@fx46.iad> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net hZYu8LcV9FMkjDyMpbD04QU8pA9n+NZMcLsMU/7000ZGKGEjKJ Cancel-Lock: sha1:is/WmaBIB5JRSwgRIrfgbzgI6K4= sha256:hTqLjWt13w/PPknptvvjGov30jZOLD9Yie83efoAA1A= Content-Language: de-DE In-Reply-To: Xref: csiph.com misc.phone.mobile.iphone:184937 comp.sys.mac.system:143460 comp.mobile.android:139905 Alan Browne, 2024-03-04 15:31: > On 2024-03-02 16:33, Arno Welzel wrote: >> Alan Browne, 2024-03-02 15:00: >> >>> On 2024-03-01 07:19, Arno Welzel wrote: >>>> Alan Browne, 2024-02-27 01:02: >> [...] >>>>>> How to join group conversions or use any of the other specific features >>>>>> of iMessage without using iMessage? >>>>> >>>>> Hard to "join", but if the SMS-er(s) is(are) on the first list of a >>>>> group, then no big issue. Not elegant, mind you. >>>> >>>> Not "hard" - impossible. With SMS you can only send a message to a phone >>>> number, not to a messenger group. >>> >>> Look at it the other way around. If a group copies an SMS user with a >>> message, his replies will go back to the group. This assumes the group >>> were all enlisted by phone number, however. >> >> If a user sends an SMS message, he can only send it to a phone number. >> There is no phone number which will address the whole group. So what did >> I miss here? > > I'd have to revisit it, but I do recall chats where a reply from SMS > users appeared on two or more iPhones. Again: SMS is only to a phone number. It is technically impossible to determine, if an incoming SMS message on *one* phone (the phone number, the SMS was addressed to) was intended for a iMessage group. It will only be displayed as what it is: an incoming SMS message from one user to another user. -- Arno Welzel https://arnowelzel.de