Path: csiph.com!news.redatomik.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed8.news.xs4all.nl!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Lloyd Parsons Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system Subject: Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2017 13:43:29 -0500 Lines: 44 Message-ID: References: <7699542da7f01f1304183cf9c297a669@dizum.com> <220320171717148631%nospam@nospam.invalid> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net E3MbgTUvmvzgusyLdrEVCg52NKUXaVPUswiaLVh+Tkx6DFVHwD Cancel-Lock: sha1:EbAh8eGW1yhmBasWMYu3pNzNgE8= User-Agent: Unison/2.2 Xref: csiph.com comp.sys.mac.system:102968 On 2017-03-24 17:13:27 +0000, Jolly Roger said: > On 2017-03-24, Lloyd Parsons wrote: >> On 2017-03-24 16:36:23 +0000, Jolly Roger said: >>> >>> Breville's Barista Express (~$600) seems to fit into this slot. We've >>> had one at home for six years now, and use it almost daily - several >>> times a day when we do use it. It has a built-in grinder with adjustable >>> grind size and dose settings, automatic digital temperature controlled >>> water and pressure controls that allow you to override with your own >>> settings. It'll brew espresso in automated fashion or manually if you >>> prefer to control the grind size, grind dose, temperature, shot volume, >>> and so on (or any combination) yourself. It puts our nearly perfect >>> espresso every single time. We love the machine; and the espresso that >>> comes out of it is *far* better than what you get at most any fast >>> espresso shop - even better ones than Starbucks, which has the bar set >>> really low, IMHO. Highly recommended for those who want a good espresso >>> at home without the snobbish elite prices. : ) >> >> That is a decent one, but in the 'snobs' circle, the grinder is >> considered a weak point with many that have tried it finding it not so >> good at getting the grind just right. > > That's interesting. I haven't noticed a problem with grind size. Then > again, I'm only just snobby enough to recognize that most fast-food > espresso tastes like crap compared to what I get at home. : ) I really > have to wonder about the legitimacy of their complaints. I'd be > interested to learn more specifics, of you know them. I read in coffeegeeks.com forums. The mere mention of Breville gets things going! > >> I have the Breville Infuser which is the same machine without grinder. >> I use it for my road trip machine coupled with the excellent Breville >> Smart Grinder Pro. > > It's a good machine, IMHO. Yeah both the one I have and yours use a thermocoil which is just another design on the thermoblock. They had a PID in them to keep temps spot on and it does a very good job of it.