Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Lloyd Parsons Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system Subject: Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2017 14:30:08 -0500 Lines: 106 Message-ID: References: <7699542da7f01f1304183cf9c297a669@dizum.com> <220320171717148631%nospam@nospam.invalid> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net eFvW+wo8IKWqvi3z2d7NIQebTdRw4lf5f2kDjzsb1oxws8eb7N Cancel-Lock: sha1:TzG01QYuFcah8nxygnibkRFFUDQ= User-Agent: Unison/2.2 Xref: csiph.com comp.sys.mac.system:102904 On 2017-03-23 18:52:02 +0000, android said: > In article , > Lloyd Parsons wrote: > >> On 2017-03-23 18:16:15 +0000, android said: >> >>> In article , >>> Lloyd Parsons wrote: >>> >>>> On 2017-03-23 17:49:39 +0000, android said: >>>> >>>>> In article , >>>>> Lloyd Parsons wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 2017-03-23 15:02:10 +0000, Rene Lamontagne said: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 3/23/2017 9:24 AM, Jolly Roger wrote: >>>>>>>> On 2017-03-23, PAS wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 3/22/2017 5:17 PM, nospam wrote: >>>>>>>>>> In article , Silver-Tongued Heel >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I guess this goes along with the lady that burned herself with >>>>>>>>>>>> McDonald's hot coffee and won a suit that they should have warned >>>>>>>>>>>> her. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> And they walk among us? >>>>>>>>>>> The reason the woman was burned, if I recall correctly, is because >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> coffee's temperature was too hot (obviously) and because the shitty >>>>>>>>>>> car >>>>>>>>>>> she was in had no cup holder. In the end, if McDonald's can be sued >>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>> the coffee being too hot then the car manufacturer should also have >>>>>>>>>>> been >>>>>>>>>>> sued for not providing a place for the old bag to put her drink. >>>>>>>>>> you don't recall correctly, or at all, actually. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> mcdonald's knowingly served coffee that was far too hot for human >>>>>>>>>> consumption, which they knew could cause serious burns, which had >>>>>>>>>> burned over 700 other people and they had *no* interest in changing >>>>>>>>>> anything. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Of course, the woman who put the cup between her legs and drove away >>>>>>>>> with it still between her legs bears no responsibility at all. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1. The vehicle was stopped when the spill occurred. >>>>>>>> 2. The court ruled McDonalds was shirking their own responsibilities. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just made a fresh pot of coffee with Proctor Silex 12 cup coffee >>>>>>> maker and poured a cup and tested it wit an accurate Photo thermometer >>>>>>> and it was 139 degrees F. >>>>>>> Just right for drinking, 180-190 is way way too hot, . >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mcdonalds are definitely in the wrong. The End. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Rene >>>>>> >>>>>> Proper brew temp is 200-203 F, but you don't serve it that hot. There >>>>>> are a very few consumer machines that brew at that temp, but none of >>>>>> them are at Walmart! :) >>>>> >>>>> here you go! USD40 combined: >>>>> >>>>> Take one of these: >>>>> >>>>> >>>> 6545&wmlspartner=wmtlabs&wl0=b&wl1=s&wl2=c&wl3=10379766292&wl4=kwd-640054 >>>>> 90432&wl12={ProductId}&wl14=bodum%20presso&veh=sem> >>>> >>>> Note you need to provide the water at the proper temp as they don't. >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Then you need one of these too: >>>>> >>>>> >>>> d=water%20boiler> >>>> >>>> Note those are or boiling water (212 F) quite a bit hotter than you >>>> want for brewing coffee properly. >>> >>> Boiling water is perfectly fine. Leave the boiler to cool a couple of >>> minutes if you got Aspergers! ;-) >>>> >>>> So show me a single machine sold by Walmart itself that is capable of >>>> producing a 200-203 F brew temp all by itself. I suppose next you'll >>>> actually show a kettle and thermometer to provide the water to a >>>> pour-over filter direct to cup... :) >>> >>> I won't. I like presso but if I wanted a brewer then I probably would go >>> for a Moccamaster. Haven't done any research lately though... >> >> I use a Breville 920XL double-boiler espresso machine mostly for >> americanos and some of the milky drinks. Also have a nearly automatic >> Breville Oracle. Both set at 201 F, both produce superior coffee. >> >> doesn't hurt that I roast my own beans either! :) > > You must have a properly seized kitchen then! :-) Roasters are in the garage. Espresso machines have their own room. Putting them in the kitchen would just be tacky!! :)