Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Lloyd Parsons Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system Subject: Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2017 13:38:33 -0500 Lines: 96 Message-ID: References: <7699542da7f01f1304183cf9c297a669@dizum.com> <220320171717148631%nospam@nospam.invalid> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net CaDgDZGWoqvUnAaDN5f4HQR0qjNqYCq7Jc5ftBNL30JGYpHs/y Cancel-Lock: sha1:7ienIomXi3EKV/nvbdj97ajLmmk= User-Agent: Unison/2.2 Xref: csiph.com comp.sys.mac.system:102902 On 2017-03-23 18:16:15 +0000, android said: > In article , > Lloyd Parsons wrote: > >> On 2017-03-23 17:49:39 +0000, android said: >> >>> In article , >>> Lloyd Parsons wrote: >>> >>>> On 2017-03-23 15:02:10 +0000, Rene Lamontagne said: >>>> >>>>> On 3/23/2017 9:24 AM, Jolly Roger wrote: >>>>>> On 2017-03-23, PAS wrote: >>>>>>> On 3/22/2017 5:17 PM, nospam wrote: >>>>>>>> In article , Silver-Tongued Heel >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I guess this goes along with the lady that burned herself with >>>>>>>>>> McDonald's hot coffee and won a suit that they should have warned >>>>>>>>>> her. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> And they walk among us? >>>>>>>>> The reason the woman was burned, if I recall correctly, is because >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> coffee's temperature was too hot (obviously) and because the shitty >>>>>>>>> car >>>>>>>>> she was in had no cup holder. In the end, if McDonald's can be sued >>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>> the coffee being too hot then the car manufacturer should also have >>>>>>>>> been >>>>>>>>> sued for not providing a place for the old bag to put her drink. >>>>>>>> you don't recall correctly, or at all, actually. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> mcdonald's knowingly served coffee that was far too hot for human >>>>>>>> consumption, which they knew could cause serious burns, which had >>>>>>>> burned over 700 other people and they had *no* interest in changing >>>>>>>> anything. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Of course, the woman who put the cup between her legs and drove away >>>>>>> with it still between her legs bears no responsibility at all. >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. The vehicle was stopped when the spill occurred. >>>>>> 2. The court ruled McDonalds was shirking their own responsibilities. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Just made a fresh pot of coffee with Proctor Silex 12 cup coffee >>>>> maker and poured a cup and tested it wit an accurate Photo thermometer >>>>> and it was 139 degrees F. >>>>> Just right for drinking, 180-190 is way way too hot, . >>>>> >>>>> Mcdonalds are definitely in the wrong. The End. >>>>> >>>>> Rene >>>> >>>> Proper brew temp is 200-203 F, but you don't serve it that hot. There >>>> are a very few consumer machines that brew at that temp, but none of >>>> them are at Walmart! :) >>> >>> here you go! USD40 combined: >>> >>> Take one of these: >>> >>> >> 6545&wmlspartner=wmtlabs&wl0=b&wl1=s&wl2=c&wl3=10379766292&wl4=kwd-640054 >>> 90432&wl12={ProductId}&wl14=bodum%20presso&veh=sem> >> >> Note you need to provide the water at the proper temp as they don't. >> >>> >>> Then you need one of these too: >>> >>> >> d=water%20boiler> >> >> Note those are or boiling water (212 F) quite a bit hotter than you >> want for brewing coffee properly. > > Boiling water is perfectly fine. Leave the boiler to cool a couple of > minutes if you got Aspergers! ;-) >> >> So show me a single machine sold by Walmart itself that is capable of >> producing a 200-203 F brew temp all by itself. I suppose next you'll >> actually show a kettle and thermometer to provide the water to a >> pour-over filter direct to cup... :) > > I won't. I like presso but if I wanted a brewer then I probably would go > for a Moccamaster. Haven't done any research lately though... I use a Breville 920XL double-boiler espresso machine mostly for americanos and some of the milky drinks. Also have a nearly automatic Breville Oracle. Both set at 201 F, both produce superior coffee. doesn't hurt that I roast my own beans either! :)