Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Jolly Roger Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system Subject: Re: What's the Verdict on FileVault? Date: 1 Mar 2017 19:20:13 GMT Organization: People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates Lines: 127 Message-ID: References: <0001HW.D4DAAC7100BBB46BB02919BF@news.astraweb.com> <0001HW.D4DAFD0D00CE98B3B02919BF@news.astraweb.com> <280220171302066543%nospam@nospam.invalid> <0001HW.D4DC04D7010C6BB7B02919BF@news.astraweb.com> <010320171100258438%nospam@nospam.invalid> <0001HW.D4DC82C60129EF63B02919BF@news.astraweb.com> X-Trace: individual.net s/PdGBeXoVgHj5wlXusjyAywvhERvMORYofP29DO4feOM4YyQz Cancel-Lock: sha1:6aeCCLPTPZ7FBKmuT5k2uhpZ3lI= Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: slrn/1.0.1 (Darwin) Xref: csiph.com comp.sys.mac.system:101562 On 2017-03-01, Nelson wrote: > On Wed, 1 Mar 2017 11:00:25 -0500, nospam wrote > (in article <010320171100258438%nospam@nospam.invalid>): > >> In article <0001HW.D4DC04D7010C6BB7B02919BF@news.astraweb.com>, Nelson >> wrote: >> >>>>>> Hmm. I'm using Snow Leopard and Time Machine so that's a "No"? >>>>> >>>>> why are you still using snow leopard??? >>> >>> Why are you not? >> >> because it's very old > > So am I :) Old is not a reason to upgrade per se. The lack of updates is definitely a reason to upgrade - especially if you are concerned with security (everyone should be). And we all know how crappy the web browsing experience is on such ancient operating systems. Sure, you can run an old version of Firefox, but even that has dropped support for 10.6: Web browsing is what very often forces people to finally upgrade their operating system; but security updates are way more important. >> no longer supported > > Heh. Like the current version is? So the current version of macOS is no longer supported? Something tells me you are *very* confused or maybe just trolling. >> you do lose rosetta, but that's about it. however, any app that >> hasn't been updated to run on intel is abandonware and is not getting >> bug fixes or security. > > Every bug they fix, they introduce two more. Apple's internal metrics show bug counts have steadily *decreased* over time. > And besides the OS upgrade introduces a host of new bugs because of > the change in the OS itself. Rather the bugs I know than the ones I > don't :) Buggy old software won't keep working with newer operating systems without also updating said buggy old software. And that's been the case long before Snow Leopard, too. Nothing new here. : ) >>> I know that all these things are do-able and that there are ways >>> around the problems. But what do I gain? A crappy interface, a >>> locked-down computer that can only install apps via the App Store, >> >> nonsense. there is no lockdown. you can install apps from anywhere >> you want without issue. > > https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/macos-sierra-tidbits-apple-file- > system-raid-support-and-more.1977440/page-5 From that thread: "If you want to "proceed anyway" -- you right click or option click the file and open it -- instead of entirely disabling gatekeeper." Very simple. Right-click the app, choose Open. DONE. Meanwhile enjoy the additional protection you get from the feature. Apple isn't preventing you from doing whatever you want with your computer. >>> Applescript riddled with bugs, Big Brother Apple constantly >>> communicating with my computer and trying to force me to use their >>> "cloud" so that I can connect to all the "Social Networks" that I >>> abhor? >> >> nobody is forcing anything. > > If you already have one, you probably don't realize how many times > someone who doesn't gets prompted to create one. I have many machines running the latest operating system that do not have iCloud or social media configured on them. There are no constant prompts as you suggest. You're making stuff up. > If you turn on Little Snitch, you are deluged with constant requests > to connect to the Apple Mothership. Nope. I use Little Snitch, and the only connections made are associated with specific features that are enabled. Apple's not spying on anyone. > All the default behaviors assume you want to be part of the Appleverse > and it takes a lot of effort to opt out. No. That's a flat-out lie. iCloud, social media, etc are all OPT-IN. >>> Synching between all the iToys that I don't own? >> >> how would it sync to something you don't own? > > It wouldn't. The point is that's a function I don't need and hence > will not be upgrading to get. Yes, you're using an optional opt-in feature that you won't use to justify not upgrading yet you are ignoring all of the other stuff you get and would use, including very important security features and bug fixes. If that's what you mean to do, fine - it is what it is. >>> A bunch of new bugs which will probably never be addressed because >>> Cook has lost interest in the Mac? >> >> tim cook has not lost interest in the mac. more bullshit. > >> apple is actively working on mac os and mac hardware, and unlike snow >> leopard, sierra is getting bug fixes and security fixes. > > More bullshit. Just because you say so? NO SALE: -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR