Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Jolly Roger Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system Subject: Re: Sierra Upgrade Questions Date: 22 Feb 2017 00:05:23 GMT Organization: People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates Lines: 40 Message-ID: References: <190220171138059200%otto@bogus.address.com> <1n1qlpi.1wqc4am1g1w4nfN%dempson@actrix.gen.nz> <200220171602362624%nospam@nospam.invalid> X-Trace: individual.net ug16ZenHBYoIA/rcaNJuFgxljn/K0psJwgAZKVpfwUKMpSvmW1 Cancel-Lock: sha1:xQTU/iUfquqBh9MENShAiPatMys= Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: slrn/1.0.1 (Darwin) Xref: csiph.com comp.sys.mac.system:100882 On 2017-02-21, Fred Moore wrote: > On 2/20/17 4:02 p, nospam wrote: >> In article , Fred Moore >> wrote: >>>>> Disk Utility. Verify/Repair disk permissions is gone. Or is it now part >>>>> of FirstAid? Was it even necessary? >>>> >>>> Again, removed feature. Much of its reason to exist was to verify/repair >>>> permissions of system files to correct cases where the user or third >>>> party software or installer packages having interfered with something. >>>> >>>> Since El Capitan introduced System Integrity Protection, most of the >>>> operating system cannot be modified by the user or by non-Apple >>>> software, therefore most of the reason for verify/repair permissions has >>>> been eliminated. >>>> >>>> The system still does an automatic verify/repair permissions as part of >>>> software updates, and there is a lower level tool available via the >>>> command line (or accessible through third party utilities) if you really >>>> want to repair permissions. >>> >>> The question I have, David, is that time and again I have seen >>> _Apple's_own_ installers leave a permissions mess which must be cleaned >>> up by running Repair Permissions in Disk Utilities. >> >> no they don't > > Well, as I mentioned to JR, I have had Apple's installers cause perm > problems in 10.9 (repair perms before an update; run only an Apple > update; rerun perm repair; find/repair numerous bad perms). I only > recently acquired a laptop running 10.12, so I don't have any experience > with perms post 10.9. This has been my direct, personal experience. You're wrong. See my other reply. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR