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Re: Port scan defense

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From Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system
Subject Re: Port scan defense
Date 6 Dec 2016 16:56:25 GMT
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On 2016-12-06, Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> In article <eao348FdivqU1@mid.individual.net>,
>  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>> > On 2016-12-05 23:28, Lewis wrote:
>> >> In message <4Lmdnbf8keXbjdvFnZ2dnUU7-V-dnZ2d@giganews.com>
>> >> Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>> >>> On 2016-12-05 19:34, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> >>>> I don't have any such rules, but then I always use AdBlock Plus when
>> >>>> browsing the net.
>> >> 
>> >>> I've had to back off of AdBlock for some news sites that require
>> >>> blockers be removed.
>> >> 
>> >> I refuse to do that. Especially since the sites insisting are sites that
>> >> have previously served malicious ads to users.
>> > 
>> > You'll find more and more sites unresponsive then.
>> 
>> Bitch, please. I've been surfing the web since the very beginning, and
>> mandatory advertising was never part of the deal. 
>
> I don't remember making any "deal" with web sites. 

Like I give a shit.

>> I control what appears on my screen. If a web site refuses to exist
>> without serving crappy advertising that distracts from actual content
>> and puts my security at risk then I say fuck 'em. They don't deserve
>> my traffic anyway.
>
> And they don't need your hits

Laughable. Ad views and clicks are how most of them get paid. For the
overwhelming majority of sites that display ads, it's their *entire*
business model.

> if you're not going to help them pay for the cost of providing the
> service.

Their service isn't all that valuable.

> I work for a web-based service that gets much of its revenue from
> advertising. 

Given your response, I'm not at all surprised.

> We've talked about checking for ad-blockers, but decided that they're
> still enough of a fringe that it would be more trouble than it's worth
> to try to block them, and we don't want the bad PR.

All you will do is drive people away from your site - especially if they
can get their information elsewhere, which is almost always the case.

> But we also have an alternate revenue stream: we have pay features,
> and every time you use one of them you get a 1-day reprieve from ads.

"Pay us money, and we won't plaster annoying insecure ads on your
screen!"

Shit, someone should give you guys a humanitarian award or something.
</sarcasm>

I'll stick with my ad blockers, thanks. And if you can't make it without
ads, you don't deserve to make it.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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Port scan defense Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-04 11:45 -0500
  Re: Port scan defense Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-12-04 17:14 +0000
    Re: Port scan defense Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-04 13:09 -0500
      Re: Port scan defense Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-12-04 18:49 +0000
        Re: Port scan defense JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-12-04 16:18 -0500
          Re: Port scan defense Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-12-04 23:34 +0000
          Re: Port scan defense David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2016-12-04 19:02 -0600
      Re: Port scan defense Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-12-04 20:00 +0000
        Re: Port scan defense Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-04 15:17 -0500
          Re: Port scan defense Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-12-05 17:58 +0000
          Re: Port scan defense Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2016-12-05 14:56 -0500
            Re: Port scan defense John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2016-12-05 13:01 -0800
              Re: Port scan defense Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-05 16:18 -0500
            Re: Port scan defense Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-05 16:18 -0500
              Re: Port scan defense Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-12-05 23:10 +0000
                Re: Port scan defense Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-05 18:18 -0500
                Re: Port scan defense Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-12-05 23:34 +0000
                Re: Port scan defense Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-05 18:45 -0500
                Re: Port scan defense Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-12-06 00:34 +0000
                Re: Port scan defense Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-05 20:11 -0500
                Re: Port scan defense Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-12-06 04:28 +0000
                Re: Port scan defense Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-06 08:40 -0500
                Re: Port scan defense Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-12-06 15:17 +0000
                Re: Port scan defense Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-12-06 11:24 -0500
                Re: Port scan defense Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-12-06 16:56 +0000
                Re: Port scan defense Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-12-07 12:11 -0500
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                Re: Apple Ads (Re: Port scan defense) Alrescha <alrescha@gmail.com> - 2016-12-08 16:46 -0500
                Re: Apple Ads (Re: Port scan defense) Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-12-09 10:39 -0500
                Re: Apple Ads (Re: Port scan defense) Alrescha <alrescha@gmail.com> - 2016-12-09 13:03 -0500
                Re: Apple Ads (Re: Port scan defense) dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-12-10 09:21 +1100
                Re: Apple Ads (Re: Port scan defense) Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-12-10 04:36 +0000
                Re: Apple Ads (Re: Port scan defense) Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-12-10 19:39 +0000
                Re: Apple Ads (Re: Port scan defense) Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-10 15:55 -0500
                Re: Apple Ads (Re: Port scan defense) Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-10 16:05 -0500
                Re: Apple Ads (Re: Port scan defense) dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-12-09 12:17 +1100
                Re: Apple Ads (Re: Port scan defense) Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-12-09 14:18 +0000
                Re: Apple Ads (Re: Port scan defense) Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-12-09 10:46 -0500
                Re: Apple Ads (Re: Port scan defense) Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-12-10 20:11 +0000
                Re: Apple Ads (Re: Port scan defense) dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-12-10 09:48 +1100
                Re: Apple Ads (Re: Port scan defense) Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-12-10 20:42 +0000
                Re: Apple Ads (Re: Port scan defense) dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-12-11 13:11 +1100
                Re: Apple Ads (Re: Port scan defense) Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-12-12 00:06 +0000
                Re: Apple Ads (Re: Port scan defense) dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-12-12 14:22 +1100
                Re: Apple Ads (Re: Port scan defense) Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2015usenet1.subsume.com> - 2016-12-12 23:41 +0000
                Re: Apple Ads (Re: Port scan defense) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-12-12 18:59 -0500
                Re: Apple Ads (Re: Port scan defense) dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-12-13 13:37 +1100
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                Re: Apple Ads (Re: Port scan defense) dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-12-15 09:02 +1100
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                Re: Apple Ads (Re: Port scan defense) dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-12-24 07:00 +1100
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                Re: Apple Ads (Re: Port scan defense) Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-09 18:03 -0500
                Re: Apple Ads (Re: Port scan defense) JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-12-09 18:18 -0500
                Re: Apple Ads (Re: Port scan defense) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-12-09 18:27 -0500
                Re: Apple Ads (Re: Port scan defense) Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-10 09:33 -0500
                Re: Apple Ads (Re: Port scan defense) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-12-10 10:24 -0500
                Re: Apple Ads (Re: Port scan defense) Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-10 12:02 -0500
                Re: Apple Ads (Re: Port scan defense) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-12-10 12:40 -0500
                Re: Apple Ads (Re: Port scan defense) Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-10 12:43 -0500
                Re: Port scan defense Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2016-12-09 07:02 -0500
                Re: Port scan defense Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-12-09 10:49 -0500
                Re: Port scan defense MistahJohnson <null@example.com> - 2016-12-10 07:07 +0000
                Re: Port scan defense Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2016-12-09 07:03 -0500
                Re: Port scan defense nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-12-09 10:30 -0500
                Re: Port scan defense Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-12-09 10:51 -0500
                Re: Port scan defense Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-12-06 09:30 -0800
                Re: Port scan defense nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-12-06 12:38 -0500
                Re: Port scan defense Krzysztof Mitko <invalid@kmitko.dot.list.at.pl> - 2016-12-06 18:50 +0100
                Re: Port scan defense nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-12-06 12:53 -0500
                Re: Port scan defense Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2016-12-09 07:07 -0500
                Re: Port scan defense nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-12-09 10:30 -0500
                Re: Port scan defense Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-12-09 11:00 -0500
                Re: Port scan defense nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-12-09 11:03 -0500
                Re: Port scan defense Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-12-10 17:21 -0500
                Re: Port scan defense nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-12-10 17:42 -0500
                Re: Port scan defense Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2016-12-10 16:53 -0800
                Re: Port scan defense "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-12-10 19:28 -0600
                Re: Port scan defense nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-12-11 07:36 -0500
                Re: Port scan defense Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-12-11 02:24 +0000
                Re: Port scan defense "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-12-06 16:46 -0600
                Re: Port scan defense Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-06 18:51 -0500
                Re: Port scan defense Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-12-07 07:52 +0000
                Re: Port scan defense Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-09 08:17 -0500
                Re: Port scan defense Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-12-06 15:20 +0000
                Re: Port scan defense Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-06 18:51 -0500
                Re: Port scan defense Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-12-07 07:40 +0000
                Re: Port scan defense Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2016-12-09 06:55 -0500
  Re: Port scan defense Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-12-04 18:44 +0000
    Re: Port scan defense Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-04 14:23 -0500
      Re: Port scan defense Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-12-04 19:51 +0000
        Re: Port scan defense Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-04 15:15 -0500
      Re: Port scan defense JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-12-04 16:23 -0500
        Re: Port scan defense Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-04 16:36 -0500
          Re: Port scan defense JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-12-04 16:47 -0500
            Re: Port scan defense Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-04 16:52 -0500
          Re: Port scan defense Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-12-04 23:36 +0000
            Re: Port scan defense Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-12-04 18:51 -0500
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