Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac

From	Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.system, misc.phone.mobile.iphone
Subject	Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac
Date	2016-11-15 00:18 +0000
Organization	People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates
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On 2016-11-14, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
> On 2016-11-14 11:48, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>
>>> If Apple are adding a delay
>>
>> You are the one claiming Apple adds a delay. What I see is that Apple
>> figures out where you are on the fly and makes sure that's where you
>> get the message as quickly as possible, while other devices get the
>> message on a more lazy schedule (whenever the device happens to get
>> the message, and whenever the device decides to display it).
>
> That's why I say "if".  And the evidence says "probably".

Uh huh. Get back to us when you have real proof. Until then you are
assumed to be neither right or wrong but just spewing hot air. 

> Otherwise why would the iPhone receiving the SMS (the first possible
> device to receive an SMS) delay the ping?  There is no reason to do
> so.

The reason is the obvious one you refuse to accept: You aren't using
that device at the time. Your refusal to accept it doesn't mean it is
non-existent.

> Ping there while sending it on to the iMessage system is much simpler
> and logical.

There's no point in displaying a message (which means waking the screen
and potentially playing a sound) on a device that is not in use when the
user is known to be actively using another device. You have yet to
provide a reasonable explanation as to why anyone would actually want
that.

>>> Design fail.
>>
>> Bullshit. Only in your upside down bizzarro world. For reasonable
>> people who aren't trolling, Apple's messaging design works
>> beautifully. We never have to worry about not getting messages,
>> because Apple consistently delivers them to us wherever we are and
>> whatever we are doing. And that is what *truly* matters. Logic fail
>> for you.
>
> Logic fail?  How?

See above.

> By stating that the messages should go to all devices as soon as
> possible w/o delay?

Explain why messages should be displayed on a device you are not using
when Apple knows you are using a different device. 

This should be good. : )

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SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-12 14:30 -0500
  Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-12 20:18 +0000
    Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-12 15:39 -0500
      Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-12 20:46 +0000
        Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-12 16:07 -0500
          Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-12 22:16 +0000
            Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-12 17:55 -0500
            Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-13 11:47 -0500
              Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-13 13:55 -0500
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-13 13:57 -0500
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-13 14:00 -0500
              Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-13 19:58 +0000
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-13 18:13 -0500
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-14 01:55 +0000
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-13 23:27 -0500
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-14 05:25 +0000
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-14 16:26 +1100
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-14 07:16 +0000
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-14 09:19 -0500
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-14 16:48 +0000
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-14 13:09 -0500
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-14 18:44 +0000
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-14 19:58 -0500
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-15 03:05 +0000
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-15 08:32 -0500
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-15 16:04 +0000
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-15 18:05 -0500
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-15 23:48 +0000
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-15 18:56 -0500
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-15 23:50 +0000
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-15 19:00 -0500
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-16 13:35 +0000
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 16:29 +1100
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 10:31 +1100
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-14 20:00 -0500
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-15 03:09 +0000
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-15 04:48 +0000
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 16:34 +1100
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-15 00:51 -0500
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-15 20:43 +1100
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-15 17:14 +0000
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-15 14:24 -0500
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2016-11-15 11:32 -0800
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-15 14:54 -0500
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-16 06:59 +1100
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-15 17:11 -0500
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-15 22:25 +0000
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-15 23:45 +0000
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-16 11:14 +1100
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-15 19:38 +0000
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-15 23:43 +0000
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-15 23:55 +0000
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-17 16:05 -0500
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-17 23:13 +0000
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-17 23:41 -0500
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-18 07:37 +0000
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-19 00:28 +0000
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-19 05:32 +0000
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-19 21:54 +0000
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-20 00:47 +0000
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-19 00:25 +0000
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-18 10:48 +1100
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-18 03:21 +0000
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-18 03:23 +0000
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-15 23:43 +0000
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-14 18:35 -0500
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-15 00:18 +0000
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-14 19:43 -0500
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-11-14 17:04 -0800
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-15 02:55 +0000
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-15 02:51 +0000
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-15 08:30 -0500
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Pat <pat@nospam.us> - 2016-11-15 10:29 -0500
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-15 16:11 +0000
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-15 18:05 -0500
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-15 16:07 +0000
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-15 18:06 -0500
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-15 23:52 +0000
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-15 19:17 -0500
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-16 00:45 +0000
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-15 22:34 -0500
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-16 04:12 +0000
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-17 06:16 +1100
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-16 13:40 +0000
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-15 16:33 +0000
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-15 18:06 -0500
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-15 23:53 +0000
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-17 16:04 -0500
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-17 23:05 +0000
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-18 10:47 +1100
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-15 23:47 +0000
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-15 18:55 -0500
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-16 13:38 +0000
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-11-16 19:09 -0500
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-15 23:55 +0000
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2016-11-17 16:01 -0500
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-11-17 22:45 +0000
                Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-11-18 10:42 +1100
          Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-13 01:38 +0000
        Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-13 01:37 +0000
    Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac martin <martin@rakupottery.org.uk> - 2016-11-13 15:57 +0000
  Re: SMS "pings" on iPhone long after received on Mac Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-11-13 01:35 +0000

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