Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Jolly Roger Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system Subject: Re: New Mac Keyboard with Touchbar? Date: 3 Nov 2016 00:46:21 GMT Organization: People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates Lines: 38 Message-ID: References: <1mvvjae.gd6s9g18ejs0oN%nmassello@yahoo.com> <6IadnYkzx_ArWonFnZ2dnUU7-T-dnZ2d@giganews.com> <1mvw3gm.u7l0d31pdg2rjN%nmassello@yahoo.com> <301020161159405514%star@sky.net> <7ICdnfHlzNnBv4vFnZ2dnUU7-INQAAAA@giganews.com> <5L6dndmlf7af8YvFnZ2dnUU7-N3NnZ2d@giganews.com> <011120161726126914%nospam@nospam.invalid> <14-dnRc0Aeu364fFnZ2dnUU7-L_NnZ2d@giganews.com> X-Trace: individual.net ZAjI7Xljp5znlax9+mRrsQxl+SXK8MrYdoKuxdGyXR1iZRXwFz Cancel-Lock: sha1:RbL9ucnXPxd8DAjAswwFQTuSTv8= Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: slrn/1.0.1 (Darwin) Xref: csiph.com comp.sys.mac.system:96393 On 2016-11-02, Alan Browne wrote: > On 2016-11-02 12:07, Jolly Roger wrote: >> Alan Browne wrote: >>> On 2016-11-01 17:26, nospam wrote: >>>> In article , Alan Browne >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Doubling the RAM doubles the power the RAM takes - not the power the >>>>> system takes. 20 - 30% more battery is probably far more than enough. >>>> >>>> doubling the memory requires using desktop ram chips (because skylake >>>> does not support low power chips), which means there is a big increase >>>> in power draw even while staying at 16 gig, plus an thermal impact on >>>> top of that. >>>> >>>> it's much more than just making the battery a little bigger, all for >>>> something a very small minority of users want. >>> >>> If you do an iStat menus dropdown of the power draws (on a desktop), you >>> can see that the power required for RAM v. the rest of the system is >>> quite low as a proportion to the whole. So increasing the RAM will not >>> have much impact on the overall size of the battery - nor thermal load. >>> I'm looking at the numbers on a desktop (not all that efficient memory >>> in power terms). >> >> Something tells me hardware designers don't use iStat menus to design >> hardware systems. It's funny how random people on the net automatically >> think they are better qualified than actual experts. > > What hardware engineers do is... As if you'd know. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR