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Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID

From Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system
Subject Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID
Date 2016-09-23 19:01 +0000
Organization People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates
Message-ID <e4lcfvFr1c9U1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
References (5 earlier) <barmar-F8E736.21513222092016@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu> <1mtzv3w.1groleo1bepyxmN%nmassello@yahoo.com> <barmar-B054C0.10552223092016@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu> <david_ryeburn-3DF349.10112523092016@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu> <agisaak-19B4CD.11451023092016@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>

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On 2016-09-23, Andre G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> wrote:
> In article 
><david_ryeburn-3DF349.10112523092016@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>,
>  David Ryeburn <david_ryeburn@telus.netz> wrote:
>
>> In article <barmar-B054C0.10552223092016@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>,
>>  Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>> 
>> > Nope, I'm running 10.6 in a VM so I can use MT-NW. I just tested it here 
>> > and I got the icon.
>> 
>> One of several reasons I will soon be running 10.6.8 under 10.11 in a 
>> VM. Another one is Eudora.
>> 
>> Which emulator program are you using? I'd like to try Virtual Box since 
>> it's free, but many people seem to think Parallels is worth the money.
>
> I use Parallels (which, BTW, is virtualization software, not an emulator 
> -- an emulator would be something like SheepShaver). I'm quite happy 
> with it. I currently have VMs with OS 10.5 through 10.12, along with 
> several different Windows versions and a variety of linuces. For some 
> reason Yosemite and Sierra run incredibly slowly when virtualized in 
> parallels, but everything else runs well.
>
> Note that Parallels won't let you run 10.6.x in a VM, but it will let 
> you run 10.6.x server. I suspect the same holds for Fusion, but I'm not 
> sure about Virtual Box.

Both VMware Fusion and Parallels Desktop refuse to run 10.6 client
versions, which means you must purchase 10.6 server to run it.
Virtual Box will allow you to run 10.6 client, but it's up to you to set
it up correctly, and installing software updates to get to 10.6.8 can be
problematic as well.

> My limited experience with virtual box is that it is very unstable, but 
> YMMV.

That's been my experience as well. And in addition to being clunky and
relatively unstable, Virtual Box sorely lacks many integration features,
such as clipboard sharing, and other things that make it harder to work
with guest operating systems compared with Fusion and Desktop. You get
what you pay for. 

-- 
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JR

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Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-09-20 21:42 -0400
  Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID David Ryeburn <david_ryeburn@telus.netz> - 2016-09-20 22:29 -0700
    Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-09-21 09:20 -0400
    Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Michael Vilain <mev94303y@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-21 08:05 -0700
      Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-09-21 11:17 -0400
      Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-09-22 03:31 +0000
        Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Elfin <elfinarc6@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 10:37 -0500
          Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-09-22 11:13 -0500
            Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-22 12:26 -0400
            Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-09-23 02:25 +0000
        Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> - 2016-09-23 19:50 +0200
    Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2016-09-22 16:29 -0600
      Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID David Ryeburn <david_ryeburn@telus.netz> - 2016-09-22 15:48 -0700
        Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2016-09-22 21:00 -0400
          Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-09-22 21:51 -0400
            Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2016-09-22 20:26 -0600
              Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-09-23 10:55 -0400
                Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID David Ryeburn <david_ryeburn@telus.netz> - 2016-09-23 10:11 -0700
                Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-23 13:21 -0400
                Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID "Andre G. Isaak" <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2016-09-23 11:45 -0600
                Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-23 19:01 +0000
                Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID "Andre G. Isaak" <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2016-09-23 13:10 -0600
                Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID David Ryeburn <david_ryeburn@telus.netz> - 2016-09-23 18:13 -0700
                Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-09-24 17:44 -0400
        Caps Lock keys (Was: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID) David Ryeburn <david_ryeburn@telus.netz> - 2016-09-22 21:50 -0700
          Re: Caps Lock keys dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-09-23 20:17 +1200
        Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-09-23 20:05 -0500
      Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2016-09-24 01:55 +0000
        Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-24 01:59 +0000
          Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2016-09-27 00:21 +0000
  Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-24 09:14 -0400
  Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-24 12:31 -0400
    Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-24 16:54 +0000
      Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-24 09:57 -0700
      Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-24 13:03 -0400
        Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-24 17:40 +0000
          Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-24 13:47 -0400
            Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-24 18:14 +0000
              Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-24 15:09 -0400
        Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2016-09-27 00:23 +0000
          Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-09-26 17:51 -0700
            Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-26 20:58 -0400
              Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-09-27 10:57 -0400
                Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-27 13:10 -0400
                Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-09-28 10:32 -0400
                Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-09-29 10:25 +1300
                Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-09-28 18:40 -0500
                Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-09-29 13:28 +1300
                Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2016-09-28 02:28 +0000
                Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-27 22:30 -0400
                Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-09-28 05:06 +0000
                Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-28 10:30 -0400
                Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2016-09-28 10:27 -0400
            Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-28 19:12 -0400
          Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-28 19:11 -0400
    Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-09-25 02:56 +0000
      Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-25 17:04 -0400
        Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-09-26 04:37 +0000
          Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-09-26 12:57 -0500
          Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-26 18:47 -0400
            Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-09-27 01:02 +0000
              Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-28 19:19 -0400
                Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-29 00:16 +0000
                Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2016-09-28 20:39 -0400
                Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-29 01:26 +0000
                Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-09-29 04:25 +0000
            Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID "Mongoose" <mongoose@rikkitikkitavi.com> - 2016-10-03 16:11 -0400
              Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-10-03 22:52 +0000
                Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-10-03 20:20 -0500
        Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screwed Apple ID Me, myself and I <baiheli.pip.li@xs4all.nl> - 2016-09-26 08:52 +0200
  Re: Grrrr! Sierra Screws up (Apple ID or preferences or ....) "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2016-09-24 20:44 -0500

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