Path: csiph.com!au2pb.net!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder01.blueworldhosting.com!peer01.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.bresnan.com!news.bresnan.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 00:02:12 -0500 Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 23:02:09 -0600 From: GreyCloud User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS i86pc; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110518 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.computer.security,comp.sys.mac.system,alt.hacker,alt.privacy.anon-server,comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: A real quantum computer, doing real work, doesn't exist. References: <637756e68148fcbce5a733a00e35faff@hoi-polloi.org> <6fc8ee2e12653d22c5238b7013c39998@anemone.mooo.com> <0OqdnR3lu6himrXLnZ2dnUU7-cGdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <271020152229334373%star@sky.net> In-Reply-To: <271020152229334373%star@sky.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Lines: 34 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 184.167.49.124 X-Trace: sv3-YZMQu9CWau2N3uff7TYudonEKdWem2wNngg3ENswHAJ166MOL//Yw5brR88CdOcbbtdiYKFYE18dN7A!USWvkKpdEPN4U4uBqnUsaHkgYloP+VoJMqkk8WtM8OB4NLyMguto6EH6nnpGMhPhhTEGq9fHH9zo!0LYU//1nz1eOGg== X-Complaints-To: abuse@bresnan.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@bresnan.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 3187 X-Received-Bytes: 3299 X-Received-Body-CRC: 3933763472 Xref: csiph.com alt.computer.security:5414 comp.sys.mac.system:84376 alt.hacker:9301 alt.privacy.anon-server:46591 comp.os.linux.advocacy:329071 On 10/27/15 20:29, Davoud wrote: > GreyCloud: >>> Then how come NSA is building one? > > Siri Cruz: >> NSA doesn't. NSA buys computers rather than build them. > > True, if taken literally. NSA and other gov't agencies design and > invent, but government agencies are limited by law in the number of > devices that they can build; after the prototype stage manufacture has > to be turned over to the private sector. If they need a very few of a > sensitive device they may build it themselves. (Obama isn't /really/ a > socialist!) There are exceptions for certain things; NSA has a chip > fabrication facility on its campus to fabricate classified chips, but > for all I know that may be operated by a private-sector contractor as > well. To save the taxpayer money NSA buys off-the-shelf when it can. > They fab their own chips if it isn't commercially available. Cryptograhpic chips they do themselves for security reasons. They don't want a vendor to know how it works. I don't know if you have heard about the 350Mhz cpu chip fabbed in 1965. Somewere on NSAs website, www.nsa.gov, there is a release program to corporations for advanced technology that they deem should be useful for public use. Anyway, since when did the nsa ever obey the law? -- When told the reason for daylight savings time the Old Indian said, "Only the government would believe that you could cut a foot off the top of a blanket, sew it to the bottom, and have a longer blanket."