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From: Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
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Subject: Re: El Capitan - Secure Delete Trash Option gone?
Date: 8 Oct 2015 20:39:26 GMT
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On 2015-10-08, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
> On 2015-10-08 13:23, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> On 2015-10-08, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>>> On 2015-10-08 06:13, Calum wrote:
>>>> On 08/10/2015 09:43, FPP wrote:
>>>>> Did I miss something?
>>>>>
>>>>> My Finder menu only shows "Empty Trash"... the option to securely delete
>>>>> the Trash is no longer there.
>>>>
>>>> Do you have an SSD? If so, it's possible they (sensibly) removed it, as
>>>> secure delete doesn't really work on SSDs.
>>>
>>> The fly in that ointment:
>>>
>>> While SSD is a poor target for srm, emptying the trash also empties
>>> trash on external drives which are typically spinning mass.  (4 in my
>>> case).  My practice has been to put private files I want to delete in a
>>> special folder on those drives and occasionally run a script that srm's
>>> within those folders.  (Secure Empty Trash also ran several passes where
>>> a single random pass is more than enough by far).
>>
>> I just encrypt everything on the drive with FileVault. So the manner of
>> deletion doesn't really matter all that much to me.
>
> Me too - but you're still open to recovery as long as the keys exist 
> somewhere (rubber hose decryption etc.).  I know, I know...

The keys are encrypted with a pass phrase only I and my wife know. I'm
not worried. : )

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